From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/38515 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Kai.Grossjohann@CS.Uni-Dortmund.DE (Kai =?iso-8859-1?q?Gro=DFjohann?=) Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: Strange server names confusion Date: Sun, 02 Sep 2001 12:44:14 +0200 Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: coloc-standby.netfonds.no Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1035174366 22941 80.91.224.250 (21 Oct 2002 04:26:06 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2002 04:26:06 +0000 (UTC) Return-Path: Return-Path: Original-Received: (qmail 5502 invoked from network); 2 Sep 2001 10:44:42 -0000 Original-Received: from waldorf.cs.uni-dortmund.de (129.217.4.42) by gnus.org with SMTP; 2 Sep 2001 10:44:42 -0000 Original-Received: from lothlorien.cs.uni-dortmund.de (lothlorien.cs.uni-dortmund.de [129.217.19.67]) by waldorf.cs.uni-dortmund.de with ESMTP id MAA22126 for ; Sun, 2 Sep 2001 12:44:15 +0200 (MES) Original-Received: from lucy.cs.uni-dortmund.de (lucy [129.217.19.80]) by lothlorien.cs.uni-dortmund.de id MAA16212; Sun, 2 Sep 2001 12:44:15 +0200 (MET DST) Original-Received: by lucy.cs.uni-dortmund.de (Postfix, from userid 6104) id BB4722097; Sun, 2 Sep 2001 12:44:14 +0200 (CEST) Original-To: ding@gnus.org In-Reply-To: (prj@po.cwru.edu's message of "Sun, 02 Sep 2001 00:54:50 -0400") User-Agent: Gnus/5.090004 (Oort Gnus v0.04) Emacs/21.0.105 Original-Lines: 53 Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:38515 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:38515 prj@po.cwru.edu (Paul Jarc) writes: > Kai.Grossjohann@CS.Uni-Dortmund.DE (Kai Gro=DFjohann) wrote: > > Simon Josefsson writes: >>> Foreign groups are identified by the name of the server (car of each >>> entry in `gnus-server-alist'). >>=20 >> And secondary groups are identified in some other way? > > Here's the story AIUI. Every select method has a first element (the > backend) and a second element (which you and I might have thought of > as the "name" but which Gnus calls the "address"). Some select > methods (the primary and foreign ones) also have "server names". The > primary select method's name is "native", and a foreign method's name > is its key in gnus-server-alist. Secondary select methods do not have > "server names". Is there a way for a foreign server to have a different name than address using the `normal' Gnus functions? Or do I have to frob gnus-server-alist directly for that? >> Does this mean I can have two secondary servers with the same name (as >> long as the backend is different), but not two foreign servers with >> the same name? > > You can have two servers of any kind with the same "address" if they > have different backends. You cannot have two servers of any kind with > the same "name". I think. Okay, I think I got that. Since secondary servers don't have names, it's not a problem to have both (nnml "" ...) and (nnimap ""...). >> Well, I tried to enter "nntp:quimby" (with quotes) after `G e' on the >> group, then I tried to enter the group -- no dice. But with "quimby" >> (with quotes), it worked. > > I think "nntp:quimby.gnus.org" would work, assuming "quimby.gnus.org" > is the second element of your select method. I have the following entry in gnus-server-alist: ("quimby" nntp "quimby" (nntp-address "news.gnus.org")) I think that this means that both the name and the address are "quimby". Therefore, "nntp:quimby" should work. But it doesn't, only "quimby" works. Or are you saying that with the above entry, "nntp:news.gnus.org" should work? Whee... kai --=20 Symbol's function definition is void: signature