From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/24418 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Kai =?iso-8859-1?q?Gro=DFjohann?= Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: off topic alert: XEmacs vs Emacs? Date: 20 Jul 1999 23:34:10 +0200 Sender: owner-ding@hpc.uh.edu Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: coloc-standby.netfonds.no Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1035161987 8577 80.91.224.250 (21 Oct 2002 00:59:47 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2002 00:59:47 +0000 (UTC) Return-Path: Original-Received: from farabi.math.uh.edu (farabi.math.uh.edu [129.7.128.57]) by sclp3.sclp.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA25281 for ; Tue, 20 Jul 1999 17:36:13 -0400 (EDT) Original-Received: from sina.hpc.uh.edu (lists@Sina.HPC.UH.EDU [129.7.3.5]) by farabi.math.uh.edu (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id QAB21859; Tue, 20 Jul 1999 16:35:34 -0500 (CDT) Original-Received: by sina.hpc.uh.edu (TLB v0.09a (1.20 tibbs 1996/10/09 22:03:07)); Tue, 20 Jul 1999 16:35:59 -0500 (CDT) Original-Received: from sclp3.sclp.com (root@sclp3.sclp.com [204.252.123.139]) by sina.hpc.uh.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA07625 for ; Tue, 20 Jul 1999 16:35:50 -0500 (CDT) Original-Received: from waldorf.cs.uni-dortmund.de (waldorf.cs.uni-dortmund.de [129.217.4.42]) by sclp3.sclp.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA25220 for ; Tue, 20 Jul 1999 17:34:43 -0400 (EDT) Original-Received: from petty.cs.uni-dortmund.de (petty.cs.uni-dortmund.de [129.217.20.161]) by waldorf.cs.uni-dortmund.de with SMTP id XAA26083 for ; Tue, 20 Jul 1999 23:34:12 +0200 (MES) Original-Received: (grossjoh@localhost) by petty.cs.uni-dortmund.de id XAA20296; Tue, 20 Jul 1999 23:34:11 +0200 Original-To: ding@gnus.org Original-Lines: 28 User-Agent: Gnus/5.070095 (Pterodactyl Gnus v0.95) Emacs/20.3.11 Precedence: list X-Majordomo: 1.94.jlt7 Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:24418 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:24418 I think quite a few of you have lots of experience with both flavors of Emacs. I haven't really used XEmacs for anything, though. When people ask about the pros and cons of each version, it is easy to come up with nifty XEmacs features like toolbar buttons, the Motif scroll bars, tooltips, inline images, the many preconfigured add-on packages, and stuff. On the other hand, I see that XEmacs behaves in, err, /unexpected/ ways. Two anecdotical examples: loading del-bs.el (or similar) does what one expect, *except* in Lisp Interaction mode. Hm. rcp.el doesn't work together with EFS because EFS expects to be the only remote-file handling package used (well, the only one which uses file names beginning with "/foo:"). I get a vague feeling that the many packages included with XEmacs might not be so well thought-out and thoroughly-tested. Yet, I'm sure that I would do injustice to XEmacs if I were to say it is less stable or less well tested. Thoughts? If you feel this discussion is inappropriate in this group, feel free to say so and I'll go elsewhere. kai -- Life is hard and then you die.