bbdb, Umlauts, pgnus-0.79 and emacs-20.2

bbdb, Umlauts, pgnus-0.79 and emacs-20.2

[Johannes Weinert]

Hello,

I don't know if this is reportable, because the behaviour I describe
only appears with emacs-20.2. I can't reproduce it on emacs-20.3. I
even don't know if this is the right place, but the problem I describe
below does not exist under semi-gnus or gnus-5.7.

However, I experienced the following Bug with bbdb-2.00.xx, pgnus-0.79
and emacs-20.2:
I read an article of someone who had "Umlauts" in his real name. Lets
say the name is "Max Schäfer". Then bbdb only recognizes the name "Max
Sch".

If anyone has a solution, please let me know, because I have to use
emacs-20.2 here.

Thanks

-- 
Hans

Re: bbdb, Umlauts, pgnus-0.79 and emacs-20.2

[Lee Willis]

"Johannes Weinert" <Johannes.Weinert@Informatik.Uni-Oldenburg.DE> writes:

> However, I experienced the following Bug with bbdb-2.00.xx, pgnus-0.79
> and emacs-20.2:
> I read an article of someone who had "Umlauts" in his real name. Lets
> say the name is "Max Schäfer". Then bbdb only recognizes the name "Max
> Sch".

Pgnus does not support anything earlier than 20.3 so it's not really a
*bug* as such. I think there are modifications to 20.2 or support files
that enable pgnus to work with it but I don't know how
succesfull/complete these are or whether they would fix your problem.

> If anyone has a solution, please let me know, because I have to use
> emacs-20.2 here.

Can you not install 20.3 for yourself at all?

Lee.
-- 
I was doing object-oriented assembly at 1 year old ...  
For some reason my mom insists on calling it "Playing with blocks"

Re: bbdb, Umlauts, pgnus-0.79 and emacs-20.2

[Colin Rafferty]

Johannes Weinert writes:

> I read an article of someone who had "Umlauts" in his real name. Lets
> say the name is "Max Schäfer". Then bbdb only recognizes the name "Max
> Sch".

Unfortunately, I don't have a version of 20.2 to test with here.
However, there are two things that you can do to try to help me debug
this:

First, please tell me where the mail-extr library is.  If there is one
in your bbdb lisp directory, then you should remove it, restart Emacs,
and see if you still have the problem.

If you do have the problem, insert the following text in the *scratch*
buffer, and type C-j (control j) after it.  Send back the results.

    (mail-extract-address-components "Max Schäfer <max@plank.org>")

Thanks.

-- 
Colin

Re: bbdb, Umlauts, pgnus-0.79 and emacs-20.2

[Johannes Weinert]

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Colin Rafferty <craffert@ms.com> writes:

> Johannes Weinert writes:
> 
> > I read an article of someone who had "Umlauts" in his real name. Lets
> > say the name is "Max Schäfer". Then bbdb only recognizes the name "Max
> > Sch".
> 
> Unfortunately, I don't have a version of 20.2 to test with here.
> However, there are two things that you can do to try to help me debug
> this:
> 
> First, please tell me where the mail-extr library is.  If there is one
> in your bbdb lisp directory, then you should remove it, restart Emacs,
> and see if you still have the problem.

The library mail-extr is the one shipped with emacs-20.2.

> If you do have the problem, insert the following text in the *scratch*
> buffer, and type C-j (control j) after it.  Send back the results.
> 
>     (mail-extract-address-components "Max Schäfer <max@plank.org>")

Well, funny. I put this text via cut-and-paste in the scratch buffer
and evaluated the expression as desired. The result was:
    ("Max Sch" "max@plank.org")
But, if I startet another emacs (language-environment was not already
set to "Latin-1", I execute the function in gnus-startup-hook), and
pasted the text from scratch-buffer to it, a \201 showed up before the
"ä". If I delete this, then mail-extract-address-components returns
    ("Max Schäfer" "max@plank.org")
als desired. Otherwise it's the same as above.

Well, I think, I should convince the system administrator to install
emacs-20.3 (or the bad way: do it for myself - as suggested before).
> 
> Thanks.

Thank _you_ for your efforts.

-- 
Hans

Re: bbdb, Umlauts, pgnus-0.79 and emacs-20.2

[Colin Rafferty]

Johannes Weinert writes:
> Colin Rafferty <craffert@ms.com> writes:

>> If you do have the problem, insert the following text in the *scratch*
>> buffer, and type C-j (control j) after it.  Send back the results.
>> 
>> (mail-extract-address-components "Max Schäfer <max@plank.org>")

> Well, funny. I put this text via cut-and-paste in the scratch buffer
> and evaluated the expression as desired. The result was:
>     ("Max Sch" "max@plank.org")

This means that the problem is with `mail-extract-address-components'
(as you can see).  Since the base emacs functionality doesn't work,
there nothing that I can do, other than try to hack around it, which
is not something that I want to do.

You may want to try getting the 20.3 version of mail-extr, and see if
that fixes the problem.

> But, if I startet another emacs (language-environment was not already
> set to "Latin-1", I execute the function in gnus-startup-hook), and
> pasted the text from scratch-buffer to it, a \201 showed up before the
> "ä". If I delete this, then mail-extract-address-components returns
>     ("Max Schäfer" "max@plank.org")
> als desired. Otherwise it's the same as above.

I think that emacs-20.2 is screwing with your characters.  This
paragraph has been garbled by putting in all those \201 characters.

> Well, I think, I should convince the system administrator to install
> emacs-20.3 (or the bad way: do it for myself - as suggested before).

That seems to be the only fix.  I hope that they will do it.

-- 
Colin