* Re: Q: Cross posted articles
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@ 1996-02-23 20:30 ` Mark Borges
1996-02-23 22:45 ` Steven L Baur
1996-02-24 7:44 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
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From: Mark Borges @ 1996-02-23 20:30 UTC (permalink / raw)
Cc: Ding Gnus List
>> On 23 Feb 1996 18:37:15 GMT,
>> Christopher Davis(ckd) wrote:
ckd> Try this trick:
ckd> Telnet to the news server's nntp port.
ckd> Type "list overview.fmt".
ckd> See if it includes a line "Xref:full".
ckd> It probably doesn't.
good guess!
mine doesn't (see below). Is this one of those things I "should
complain bitterly to the NetNews administrators" about?
ckd> (PS to Lars: maybe a Red Gnus feature? M-x gnus-check-for-evil-nov ? :)
Does this mean my NOV is eVIl? (I don't really understand the full
repercussions, apart from the obvious that scoring on Xref won't
work). Would I be better served by setting g-n-i-e:
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
gnus-nov-is-evil's value is nil
Documentation:
If non-nil, Gnus backends will never output headers in the NOV format.
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Thanks for any advice,
-mb-
200 boulder InterNetNews NNRP server INN 1.4unoff2 7-Aug-95 ready (posting ok).
list overview.fmt
215 Order of fields in overview database.
Subject:
From:
Date:
Message-ID:
References:
Bytes:
Lines:
.
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* Re: Q: Cross posted articles
1996-02-23 20:30 ` Q: Cross posted articles Mark Borges
@ 1996-02-23 22:45 ` Steven L Baur
1996-02-24 7:44 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
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From: Steven L Baur @ 1996-02-23 22:45 UTC (permalink / raw)
>>>>> "mb" == Mark Borges <mdb@cdc.noaa.gov> writes:
>>> Christopher Davis(ckd) wrote:
ckd> Try this trick:
ckd> Telnet to the news server's nntp port.
ckd> Type "list overview.fmt".
ckd> See if it includes a line "Xref:full".
ckd> It probably doesn't.
mb> good guess!
mb> mine doesn't (see below). Is this one of those things I "should
mb> complain bitterly to the NetNews administrators" about?
Yes. You can be thankful you're running a real INN server though.
The one from Netscape has some horrible bugs in it that they refuse to
fix.
ckd> (PS to Lars: maybe a Red Gnus feature? M-x gnus-check-for-evil-nov ? :)
mb> Does this mean my NOV is eVIl? (I don't really understand the full
mb> repercussions, apart from the obvious that scoring on Xref won't
mb> work). Would I be better served by setting g-n-i-e:
gnus-nov-is-evil is overkill. You could say gnus-nov-is-evil is evil,
since setting it disables use of overview with nnml as well. Setting
nntp-nov-is-evil is sufficient.
Speaking for myself, I have to have crossposts killed once read.
Reading news is too annoying without it. The main thing you lose is
stuff like gnus-fetch-old-headers which doesn't work without NOV.
I started on a workaround patch to use XHDR[*] to get Xref:, but it got
totally broken when Lars overhauled nntp.el, and I haven't gotten back
to it.
[*]You get overview info from an INN server by issuing the command
XOVER from-to
If this is missing Xref: data, it may be obtained by issuing the command
XHDR XREF from-to
and then grafting the results onto the data obtained from XOVER to get
the same effect.
--
steve@miranova.com baur
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* Re: Q: Cross posted articles
1996-02-23 20:30 ` Q: Cross posted articles Mark Borges
1996-02-23 22:45 ` Steven L Baur
@ 1996-02-24 7:44 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
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From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen @ 1996-02-24 7:44 UTC (permalink / raw)
Mark Borges <mdb@cdc.noaa.gov> writes:
> >> Christopher Davis(ckd) wrote:
>
> ckd> (PS to Lars: maybe a Red Gnus feature? M-x gnus-check-for-evil-nov ? :)
Yup. I've added this to the todo list. I'll also be mentioning the
"LIST overview.fmt" trick in the manual.
--
"Yes. The journey through the human heart
would have to wait until some other time."
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