From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/10786 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Justin Sheehy Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: That backup thing... Date: 23 Apr 1997 12:53:45 -0400 Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: coloc-standby.netfonds.no Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.94) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1035150598 26376 80.91.224.250 (20 Oct 2002 21:49:58 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 20 Oct 2002 21:49:58 +0000 (UTC) Return-Path: Original-Received: from ifi.uio.no (0@ifi.uio.no [129.240.64.2]) by deanna.miranova.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id KAA20639 for ; Wed, 23 Apr 1997 10:08:02 -0700 Original-Received: from claymore.vcinet.com (claymore.vcinet.com [208.205.12.23]) by ifi.uio.no with SMTP (8.6.11/ifi2.4) id for ; Wed, 23 Apr 1997 18:54:03 +0200 Original-Received: (qmail 10807 invoked by uid 504); 23 Apr 1997 16:51:42 -0000 Original-Received: (qmail 10804 invoked from network); 23 Apr 1997 16:51:42 -0000 Original-Received: from amber.ccs.neu.edu (root@129.10.111.100) by claymore.vcinet.com with SMTP; 23 Apr 1997 16:51:41 -0000 Original-Received: from garathorm.ccs.neu.edu (dworkin@garathorm.ccs.neu.edu [129.10.112.112]) by amber.ccs.neu.edu (8.8.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA21437 for ; Wed, 23 Apr 1997 12:53:50 -0400 (EDT) Original-Received: (dworkin@localhost) by garathorm.ccs.neu.edu (8.8.4/8.6.4) id MAA04845; Wed, 23 Apr 1997 12:53:48 -0400 (EDT) Original-To: ding@gnus.org X-Url: http://www.ccs.neu.edu/home/dworkin/ In-Reply-To: Norman Walsh's message of 23 Apr 1997 09:12:40 -0400 Original-Lines: 56 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.4.46/Emacs 19.34 Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:10786 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:10786 Norman Walsh writes: > That said, I get the distinct impression that I'm going to have to > be a little more careful with nnml than I was with nnmh. Yes. Very much. > ("emacs.ding" 3 ((1 . 232)) ((reply 195 203) > (tick (1 . 8) 152 168 195 197 205 208))) It means: the group name is "emacs.ding" the group level is 3. articles 1 through 232 have been read articles 195 and 203 have been replied to (are marked replied) messages 1-8,152,168,195,197,205,208 have been marked with a '!' > >From which I gather that "emacs.ding" (~/Mail/emacs/ding/*) contains > messages numbered from 1 to 232 and that messages 1 to 8, 152, 168, > 195, 197, 205, and 208 are marked as "undeleted". All the rest I can > backup and rm (if they meet my other criteria). The "(reply ...)" > field is pretty obvious, but what does "3" mean after emacs.ding? > Are there other things that might occur in this list? It does not mean that the group contains articles 1-232. The active file holds that info. The last field here, 'tick', is one way of marking articles explicitly unread (not undeleted, as there is no such concept in Gnus). There are other marks that also mean 'unread', and also articles not in the range 1-232 are not read. the 3 is the group level. Groups that you read generally have a level somewhere from 1 to 5. > Next, in ~/Mail/emacs/ding/.overview I see one line per message. I assume > if I delete ~/Mail/emacs/ding/9, I should delete the line that begins > /^9\t/ from .overview as well. Yes. > Finally, I see in ~/Mail/active: > > emacs.ding 232 1 y > > What does this mean? And what other things might it say? It means that the low-water-mark and high-water-mark in the group "emacs.ding" are 1 and 232. From this, Gnus knows that all articles in this group have numbers between these values (inclusive). There may not be this many articles, as article 100 (for example) may be expired before article 232. -Justin