From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/11863 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: John McClary Prevost Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: searching news groups Date: 08 Aug 1997 01:47:11 -0400 Sender: visigoth@naiad.fac.cs.cmu.edu Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: coloc-standby.netfonds.no Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.103) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1035151504 438 80.91.224.250 (20 Oct 2002 22:05:04 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 20 Oct 2002 22:05:04 +0000 (UTC) Return-Path: Original-Received: from xemacs.org (xemacs.cs.uiuc.edu [128.174.252.16]) by altair.xemacs.org (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id XAA12205 for ; Thu, 7 Aug 1997 23:39:58 -0700 Original-Received: from ifi.uio.no (0@ifi.uio.no [129.240.64.2]) by xemacs.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id BAA05079 for ; Fri, 8 Aug 1997 01:35:42 -0500 (CDT) Original-Received: from claymore.vcinet.com (claymore.vcinet.com [208.205.12.23]) by ifi.uio.no with SMTP (8.6.11/ifi2.4) id for ; Fri, 8 Aug 1997 07:57:15 +0200 Original-Received: (qmail 12125 invoked by uid 504); 8 Aug 1997 05:57:14 -0000 Original-Received: (qmail 12122 invoked from network); 8 Aug 1997 05:57:14 -0000 Original-Received: from naiad.fac.cs.cmu.edu (128.2.191.173) by claymore.vcinet.com with SMTP; 8 Aug 1997 05:57:14 -0000 Original-Received: by naiad.fac.cs.cmu.edu id aa22328; 8 Aug 97 1:56 EDT Original-To: ding@gnus.org In-Reply-To: Kai Grossjohann's message of 06 Aug 1997 10:06:46 +0200 Original-Lines: 30 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.4.40/Emacs 19.34 Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:11863 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:11863 >>>>> "kg" == Kai Grossjohann writes: >>>>> On 05 Aug 1997, John McClary Prevost said: John> Hmm. Sort of. But don't you need to do something explicit John> (more than just "g") to get it to scan things? kg> M-x nnkiboze-generate-groups RET I think. Yeah, that's the one. I've also determined that it's unnacceptable. First: it seems fixated on NNTP--I can't get it to scan my nnml groups. Or rather, I can, but it won't fetch articles. It also doesn't seem to make any effort to be fast--it took me a good 5 minutes simply to scan my email! There must be a better way than this. First, we might be able to optimize somehow by noting changes in the active info for groups--only update info about those groups which have actually changed (more importantly, the messages that have changed!) I'm willing to pay a first-time cost of 5ish minutes if I never have to wait more than a few seconds afterwards. Second, it ought to be able to deal with any sort of group (like nnvirtual can) and not just nntp groups. Does it do something heinous like remember message-ids and assume that it can poll the news server for them later? Ah, well. It was worth a try. :) John.