From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/49594 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Emerick Rogul Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: Bug when jumping to group in empty topic? Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2003 16:47:29 -0500 Sender: owner-ding@hpc.uh.edu Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1043444872 21290 80.91.224.249 (24 Jan 2003 21:47:52 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2003 21:47:52 +0000 (UTC) Return-path: Original-Received: from malifon.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.13]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 18cBfI-0005VE-00 for ; Fri, 24 Jan 2003 22:47:09 +0100 Original-Received: from sina.hpc.uh.edu ([129.7.128.10] ident=lists) by malifon.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 18cBg2-00032M-00; Fri, 24 Jan 2003 15:47:54 -0600 Original-Received: by sina.hpc.uh.edu (TLB v0.09a (1.20 tibbs 1996/10/09 22:03:07)); Fri, 24 Jan 2003 15:48:50 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: from sclp3.sclp.com (sclp3.sclp.com [66.230.238.2]) by sina.hpc.uh.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id PAA06802 for ; Fri, 24 Jan 2003 15:48:37 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: (qmail 15666 invoked by alias); 24 Jan 2003 21:47:37 -0000 Original-Received: (qmail 15661 invoked from network); 24 Jan 2003 21:47:36 -0000 Original-Received: from cs.bu.edu (root@128.197.12.2) by 66.230.238.6 with SMTP; 24 Jan 2003 21:47:36 -0000 Original-Received: from csa.bu.edu (emerick@csa [128.197.12.3]) by cs.bu.edu (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id h0OLlXYW010702 for ; Fri, 24 Jan 2003 16:47:33 -0500 (EST) Original-Received: (from emerick@localhost) by csa.bu.edu (8.10.1/8.10.1) id h0OLlTc05776; Fri, 24 Jan 2003 16:47:29 -0500 (EST) Original-To: ding@gnus.org In-Reply-To: (Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen's message of "Fri, 24 Jan 2003 22:12:49 +0100") User-Agent: Gnus/5.090014 (Oort Gnus v0.14) Emacs/21.1 (sparc-sun-solaris2.6) Precedence: list X-Majordomo: 1.94.jlt7 Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:49594 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:49594 Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen writes: > But if these groups are permanently visible, surely they'll be, er, > permanently visible. :-) So is the real bug here that these groups > that are supposed to be in the group buffer all the time aren't > there? This is getting confusing, so let me draw some pictures :-) Here's how my summary buffer is logically laid out (note that I keep nnfolder groups permanently visible): [ Gnus -- 0 ] [ archives -- 0 ] [ current -- 0 ] [5] 0: nnfolder+archive:sent-mail.2003.gz [5] 0: nnfolder+archive:sent-news.2003.gz [ old -- 0 ] [ 2002 -- 0 ] [5] 0: nnfolder+archive:sent-mail.2002.gz [5] 0: nnfolder+archive:sent-news.2002.gz [ news -- 0 ] [5] *: nntp+quimby.gnus.org:gnus.ding However, I usually leave both the "2002" topic and the "old" topic unexpanded, so this is how that looks: [ Gnus -- 0 ] [ archives -- 0 ] [ current -- 0 ] [5] 0: nnfolder+archive:sent-mail.2003.gz [5] 0: nnfolder+archive:sent-news.2003.gz [ old -- 0 ]... [ news -- 0 ] [5] *: nntp+quimby.gnus.org:gnus.ding In addition, I have gnus-topic-display-empty-topics set to nil, so the following is what I actually see in my Summary buffer ("old" is hidden, since its considered empty): [ Gnus -- 0 ] [ archives -- 0 ] [ current -- 0 ] [5] 0: nnfolder+archive:sent-mail.2003.gz [5] 0: nnfolder+archive:sent-news.2003.gz [ news -- 0 ] [5] *: nntp+quimby.gnus.org:gnus.ding In this scenario, if my cursor is all the way at the bottom of the Summary buffer and I hit 'j' to jump to the nnfolder+archive:sent-mail.2002.gz group, the group and its containing topics are shown in the wrong place, like this: [ Gnus -- 0 ] [ archives -- 0 ] [ current -- 0 ] [5] 0: nnfolder+archive:sent-mail.2003.gz [5] 0: nnfolder+archive:sent-news.2003.gz [ news -- 0 ] [5] *: nntp+quimby.gnus.org:gnus.ding [ old -- 0 ] [ 2002 -- 0 ] [5] 0: nnfolder+archive:sent-mail.2002.gz I'd expect the "old" topic to show up under "archives", not under "news". I know this is probably a really bizarre edge-case, but the behavior still seems pretty weird... :-) I hope this makes more sense now, sorry it's so long-winded! -Emerick -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Emerick Rogul /\/ "how young are you, how old am i? emerick@cs.bu.edu /\/ let's count the rings around my eyes." ------------------------------------------------- 'i will dare', the mats