Re: 5.4.13 and virtual servers

[Karl Kleinpaste <karl@jprc.com>]

Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen <larsi@ifi.uio.no> writes:
> It shouldn't, but it might if there's (wow!) a bug in the new function
> that compares servers.  Let's see...  Find two groups created in this
> manner (that use the same server), and pick out the select methods
> with `G e' on the two groups.  Then do
> (gnus-server-get-method GROUP METHOD)
> an both these groups (with their server) and see what it says.  It
> should ideally return the same method for both groups.

OK, I picked on my local INN-hackery server's instance of
news.admin.{misc,technical}.  I know they cause distinct server opens
due to *Message-Log*:

Opening nntp server on localhost+nntp+localhost:news.admin.misc... 
Opening nntp server on localhost+nntp+localhost:news.admin.technical... 

`G e' for both groups returns an edit-form buffer with this content:

(nntp "localhost" 
      (nntp-address "localhost")) 

Then executing, e.g.,
	(gnus-server-get-method "news.admin.misc"
				'(nntp "localhost" (nntp-address "localhost"))
returns in the minibuffer:

(nntp "localhost" (nntp-address "localhost")) 

(Seems kinda redundant, but I think that's what you wanted.)

Identical responses for both.  One would presume they compare as
equivalent.  Um...unless they don't use the string= function?  Um,
gnus-server-get-method calls get-server-to-method, and there it loops
through the opened servers, looking for a match with `equal' rather
than `string='.  Is this the problem?

> > If so, how and why does this differ from `G m' creation?

> `G m group RET server RET'.  So it's would be less typing in the long
> run. 

I suppose I didn't ask the question very precisely.

Obviously, I can type X characters to create a group via `G m', or I
can type Y characters via entry to server mode, poke around the group
list, and subscribe those I like.

What I'm wondering is whether two groups defined only via `G m' would
have some relevant server difference indicated in the forms one finds
in .newsrc.eld, or whether a group selected via server-mode would
differ from one defined via `G m', assuming that the names typed (etc)
are the same.