From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/10066 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Karl Kleinpaste Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: 5.4.13 and virtual servers Date: 02 Mar 1997 18:27:29 -0500 Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: coloc-standby.netfonds.no X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1035149996 22174 80.91.224.250 (20 Oct 2002 21:39:56 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 20 Oct 2002 21:39:56 +0000 (UTC) Return-Path: Original-Received: from ifi.uio.no (0@ifi.uio.no [129.240.64.2]) by deanna.miranova.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id PAA09198 for ; Sun, 2 Mar 1997 15:41:18 -0800 Original-Received: from pocari-sweat.jprc.com (karl@POCARI-SWEAT.JPRC.COM [207.86.147.217]) by ifi.uio.no with ESMTP (8.6.11/ifi2.4) id for ; Mon, 3 Mar 1997 00:27:32 +0100 Original-Received: (from karl@localhost) by pocari-sweat.jprc.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) id SAA05161; Sun, 2 Mar 1997 18:27:30 -0500 Original-To: ding@ifi.uio.no In-Reply-To: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen's message of 01 Mar 1997 00:26:35 +0100 Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:10066 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:10066 Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen writes: > It shouldn't, but it might if there's (wow!) a bug in the new function > that compares servers. Let's see... Find two groups created in this > manner (that use the same server), and pick out the select methods > with `G e' on the two groups. Then do > (gnus-server-get-method GROUP METHOD) > an both these groups (with their server) and see what it says. It > should ideally return the same method for both groups. OK, I picked on my local INN-hackery server's instance of news.admin.{misc,technical}. I know they cause distinct server opens due to *Message-Log*: Opening nntp server on localhost+nntp+localhost:news.admin.misc... Opening nntp server on localhost+nntp+localhost:news.admin.technical... `G e' for both groups returns an edit-form buffer with this content: (nntp "localhost" (nntp-address "localhost")) Then executing, e.g., (gnus-server-get-method "news.admin.misc" '(nntp "localhost" (nntp-address "localhost")) returns in the minibuffer: (nntp "localhost" (nntp-address "localhost")) (Seems kinda redundant, but I think that's what you wanted.) Identical responses for both. One would presume they compare as equivalent. Um...unless they don't use the string= function? Um, gnus-server-get-method calls get-server-to-method, and there it loops through the opened servers, looking for a match with `equal' rather than `string='. Is this the problem? > > If so, how and why does this differ from `G m' creation? > `G m group RET server RET'. So it's would be less typing in the long > run. I suppose I didn't ask the question very precisely. Obviously, I can type X characters to create a group via `G m', or I can type Y characters via entry to server mode, poke around the group list, and subscribe those I like. What I'm wondering is whether two groups defined only via `G m' would have some relevant server difference indicated in the forms one finds in .newsrc.eld, or whether a group selected via server-mode would differ from one defined via `G m', assuming that the names typed (etc) are the same.