From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/39937 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Karl Kleinpaste Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: SPAM? What SPAM? (was: thoughts on spam) Date: Sat, 03 Nov 2001 14:04:00 -0500 Sender: owner-ding@hpc.uh.edu Message-ID: References: <87y9m9fs6b.fsf@squeaker.lickey.com> <87elo1exsd.fsf@squeaker.lickey.com> <20011102160930.CC3D1BD52@squeaker.lickey.com> <87wv192jzh.fsf_-_@mclinux.com> <861yjgbygz.fsf@duchess.twilley.org> <20011102235444.E9C73BD48@squeaker.lickey.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: coloc-standby.netfonds.no Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1035175568 30624 80.91.224.250 (21 Oct 2002 04:46:08 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2002 04:46:08 +0000 (UTC) Return-Path: Original-Received: (qmail 14670 invoked from network); 3 Nov 2001 19:04:27 -0000 Original-Received: from malifon.math.uh.edu (mail@129.7.128.13) by mastaler.com with SMTP; 3 Nov 2001 19:04:27 -0000 Original-Received: from sina.hpc.uh.edu ([129.7.128.10] ident=lists) by malifon.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 16065S-00008F-00; Sat, 03 Nov 2001 13:04:10 -0600 Original-Received: by sina.hpc.uh.edu (TLB v0.09a (1.20 tibbs 1996/10/09 22:03:07)); Sat, 03 Nov 2001 13:03:51 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: from sclp3.sclp.com (qmailr@sclp3.sclp.com [209.196.61.66]) by sina.hpc.uh.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id NAA03318 for ; Sat, 3 Nov 2001 13:03:38 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: (qmail 14661 invoked by alias); 3 Nov 2001 19:03:52 -0000 Original-Received: (qmail 14656 invoked from network); 3 Nov 2001 19:03:50 -0000 Original-Received: from mesquite.slip.cs.cmu.edu (HELO cinnamon.vanillaknot.com) (128.2.207.11) by gnus.org with SMTP; 3 Nov 2001 19:03:50 -0000 Original-Received: (from karl@localhost) by cinnamon.vanillaknot.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) id fA3J40U29592; Sat, 3 Nov 2001 14:04:00 -0500 Original-To: ding@gnus.org X-Face: "5(T0tZd{6}pd~YzBG8O/*EW,.]6]@`m^e;fv65W^Y&=d"M\1H}>T~4_.kcDD.O~y3k)a6 hR;Nmi>9|>Nm${2IpM0^RcUEa\jcq?KOP)C&~x51l~zCHTulL^_T|u0I^kB'z@]{`2YjQu In-Reply-To: ("Jason R. Mastaler"'s message of "Sat, 03 Nov 2001 11:39:39 -0700") Original-Lines: 11 User-Agent: Gnus/5.090004 (Oort Gnus v0.04) XEmacs/21.4 (Civil Service) Precedence: list X-Majordomo: 1.94.jlt7 Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:39937 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:39937 "Jason R. Mastaler" writes: > Believe it or not, Sendmail has thrown away > the entire envelope by the time it reaches .forward. No, the sender envelope address is present, as can be seen by sending oneself a test message while "|cat > /tmp/junk" is in one's .forward. The first line of the message in /tmp/junk is the "UNIX From_ line", containing the sender envelope (plus timestamp). I don't find the recipient envelope address very useful, because it is seldom more informative than user@host.name.