From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/45775 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Karl Kleinpaste Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: B DEL is being treated as expiry? Date: Tue, 23 Jul 2002 07:21:00 -0400 Sender: owner-ding@hpc.uh.edu Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: localhost.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1027423489 25787 127.0.0.1 (23 Jul 2002 11:24:49 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 23 Jul 2002 11:24:49 +0000 (UTC) Return-path: Original-Received: from malifon.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.13]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1 (Debian)) id 17WxmZ-0006ho-00 for ; Tue, 23 Jul 2002 13:24:48 +0200 Original-Received: from sina.hpc.uh.edu ([129.7.128.10] ident=lists) by malifon.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 17WxjN-0001d3-00; Tue, 23 Jul 2002 06:21:29 -0500 Original-Received: by sina.hpc.uh.edu (TLB v0.09a (1.20 tibbs 1996/10/09 22:03:07)); Tue, 23 Jul 2002 06:21:54 -0500 (CDT) Original-Received: from sclp3.sclp.com (qmailr@sclp3.sclp.com [209.196.61.66]) by sina.hpc.uh.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id GAA20842 for ; Tue, 23 Jul 2002 06:21:42 -0500 (CDT) Original-Received: (qmail 18855 invoked by alias); 23 Jul 2002 11:21:12 -0000 Original-Received: (qmail 18850 invoked from network); 23 Jul 2002 11:21:11 -0000 Original-Received: from mesquite.slip.cs.cmu.edu (HELO cinnamon.vanillaknot.com) (128.2.207.11) by gnus.org with SMTP; 23 Jul 2002 11:21:11 -0000 Original-Received: (from karl@localhost) by cinnamon.vanillaknot.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g6NBL0321026; Tue, 23 Jul 2002 07:21:00 -0400 Original-To: ding@gnus.org X-Face: "5(T0tZd{6}pd~YzBG8O/*EW,.]6]@`m^e;fv65W^Y&=d"M\1H}>T~4_.kcDD.O~y3k)a6 hR;Nmi>9|>Nm${2IpM0^RcUEa\jcq?KOP)C&~x51l~zCHTulL^_T|u0I^kB'z@]{`2YjQu Original-Lines: 20 User-Agent: Gnus/5.090007 (Oort Gnus v0.07) XEmacs/21.4 (Honest Recruiter, i686-pc-linux) Precedence: list X-Majordomo: 1.94.jlt7 Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:45775 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:45775 Lately, when I do `B DEL' on messages in nnml:personal.general, the articles get expired rather than deleted, which means that instead of disappearing, they get moved to nnml:archive.current.personal.general, because that's the value of expiry-target in group parameters. This is very wrong. When I use `B DEL' in personal.general, it's usually because spam managed to slide past my nnmail-split-rules and got into the wrong place. So when I hit `B DEL', I want an article to go away, now and forever. Deletion is not expiry. Looking over the ChangeLog, this is the comment reflecting the change which caused this. 2002-07-09 Nevin Kapur * gnus-sum.el (gnus-summary-delete-article): Respect group parameters while expiring. I see what -delete-article is doing now, and it's just plain wrong. If an -expire-right-now function is wanted, then that should be something separate. "Delete" is not the same thing.