From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/43186 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Karl Kleinpaste Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: references on multiple message followup Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2002 20:27:27 -0500 Sender: owner-ding@hpc.uh.edu Message-ID: References: <87lmdpj92f.fsf@zip.com.au> NNTP-Posting-Host: coloc-standby.netfonds.no Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1035178320 16238 80.91.224.250 (21 Oct 2002 05:32:00 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2002 05:32:00 +0000 (UTC) Return-Path: Original-Received: (qmail 14437 invoked from network); 20 Feb 2002 01:28:30 -0000 Original-Received: from malifon.math.uh.edu (mail@129.7.128.13) by mastaler.com with SMTP; 20 Feb 2002 01:28:30 -0000 Original-Received: from sina.hpc.uh.edu ([129.7.128.10] ident=lists) by malifon.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 16dLY1-0003za-00; Tue, 19 Feb 2002 19:27:53 -0600 Original-Received: by sina.hpc.uh.edu (TLB v0.09a (1.20 tibbs 1996/10/09 22:03:07)); Tue, 19 Feb 2002 19:27:53 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: from sclp3.sclp.com (qmailr@sclp3.sclp.com [209.196.61.66]) by sina.hpc.uh.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id TAA16636 for ; Tue, 19 Feb 2002 19:27:41 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: (qmail 14419 invoked by alias); 20 Feb 2002 01:27:36 -0000 Original-Received: (qmail 14414 invoked from network); 20 Feb 2002 01:27:32 -0000 Original-Received: from mesquite.slip.cs.cmu.edu (HELO cinnamon.vanillaknot.com) (128.2.207.11) by gnus.org with SMTP; 20 Feb 2002 01:27:32 -0000 Original-Received: (from karl@localhost) by cinnamon.vanillaknot.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g1K1RRw12878; Tue, 19 Feb 2002 20:27:27 -0500 Original-To: ding@gnus.org X-Face: "8-CgoYhiD_O!#(F%E=..0>QA_#WDy+]_XoAr)L]`-zjAc\d+nsFXq`=v_# =pVh#sP*K~j,0k9N}`E7jX"5+U?4/UIF1EE X-Face: "5(T0tZd{6}pd~YzBG8O/*EW,.]6]@`m^e;fv65W^Y&=d"M\1H}>T~4_.kcDD.O~y3k)a6 hR;Nmi>9|>Nm${2IpM0^RcUEa\jcq?KOP)C&~x51l~zCHTulL^_T|u0I^kB'z@]{`2YjQu In-Reply-To: <87lmdpj92f.fsf@zip.com.au> (Kevin Ryde's message of "Wed, 20 Feb 2002 10:22:48 +1000") Original-Lines: 23 User-Agent: Gnus/5.090006 (Oort Gnus v0.06) XEmacs/21.4 (Common Lisp, i686-pc-linux) Precedence: list X-Majordomo: 1.94.jlt7 Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:43186 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:43186 Kevin Ryde writes: > If I process mark a couple of articles to followup, so as to quote all > the text, the references constructed seems to be based only on the > first article. > I wonder if the references from all the articles could be included. > Or if that's a bit hard then maybe use the last article instead of the > first. The problem is that References is, in principle, a strict linear parentage list from head to tail of a thread. Trying to use References with multiple, immediately-referring message-ids creates something of a lattice, abandoning the linear interpretation. Reputedly, the USEFOR draft includes a much-modified concept of In-Reply-To which can contain the message-ids of all messages to which the new message refers. (I confess to not having personally seen USEFOR's draft in an indecently long time.) But I don't believe there's any support for that yet. In any event, complicating matters is the problem of how one would thread a message in a summary display, based on linear References interpretation, that had lattice-like References content.