From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/31011 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Karl Kleinpaste Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: Improved (non-annoying) underlining Date: 17 May 2000 08:58:13 -0400 Sender: owner-ding@hpc.uh.edu Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: coloc-standby.netfonds.no Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1035167472 11644 80.91.224.250 (21 Oct 2002 02:31:12 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2002 02:31:12 +0000 (UTC) Return-Path: Original-Received: from lisa.math.uh.edu (lisa.math.uh.edu [129.7.128.49]) by mailhost.sclp.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1EA71D0520 for ; Wed, 17 May 2000 08:58:41 -0400 (EDT) Original-Received: from sina.hpc.uh.edu (lists@Sina.HPC.UH.EDU [129.7.3.5]) by lisa.math.uh.edu (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id HAB07930; Wed, 17 May 2000 07:58:40 -0500 (CDT) Original-Received: by sina.hpc.uh.edu (TLB v0.09a (1.20 tibbs 1996/10/09 22:03:07)); Wed, 17 May 2000 07:58:06 -0500 (CDT) Original-Received: from mailhost.sclp.com (postfix@sclp3.sclp.com [204.252.123.139]) by sina.hpc.uh.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA27377 for ; Wed, 17 May 2000 07:57:54 -0500 (CDT) Original-Received: from mesquite.charcoal.com (MESQUITE.SLIP.CS.CMU.EDU [128.2.207.11]) by mailhost.sclp.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C8ADBD0520 for ; Wed, 17 May 2000 08:58:13 -0400 (EDT) Original-Received: (from karl@localhost) by mesquite.charcoal.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id IAA24221; Wed, 17 May 2000 08:58:13 -0400 Original-To: ding@gnus.org X-Face: "5(T0tZd{6}pd~YzBG8O/*EW,.]6]@`m^e;fv65W^Y&=d"M\1H}>T~4_.kcDD.O~y3k)a6h R;Nmi>9|>Nm${2IpM0^RcUEa\jcq?KOP)C&~x51l~zCHTulL^_T|u0I^kB'z@]{`2YjQu In-Reply-To: Hrvoje Niksic's message of "17 May 2000 14:39:04 +0200" Original-Lines: 23 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0807 (Gnus v5.8.7) XEmacs/21.2 (Iris) Precedence: list X-Majordomo: 1.94.jlt7 Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:31011 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:31011 Hrvoje Niksic writes: > As Jargon says: > ... > Unless I'm missing something, your change makes the two kinds of > emphasis indistinguishable. (To discuss this, folks will have to `C-u g' a lot, to see what's underlying things here.) In both the old case and the new, *these words* and *these* *words* have undistinguished emphasization, as Gnus displays them. Similarly, there is no difference between /these words/ and /these/ /words/, because neither boldface nor italicization has any representation in whitespace. It is only in _these words_ /vs/ _these_ _words_ that the effect can have any distinguishing characteristic at all, because underlining can affect whitespace, if one lets it. This is to say that I think the Jargon reference is just plain wrong. Using "*emphasis like this*" and "*emphasis* *like* *this*" makes no difference, as displayed by any font-aware reader like Gnus. Again, it comes down to a personal preference, so I think a customizable doodad is in order. I'll work up a new patch shortly.