From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/20265 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Karl Kleinpaste Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: MIME handling for common MS Windows attachments? Date: 13 Jan 1999 09:13:00 -0500 Sender: owner-ding@hpc.uh.edu Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: coloc-standby.netfonds.no Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1035158587 16842 80.91.224.250 (21 Oct 2002 00:03:07 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2002 00:03:07 +0000 (UTC) Return-Path: Original-Received: from karazm.math.uh.edu (karazm.math.uh.edu [129.7.128.1]) by sclp3.sclp.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA02162 for ; Wed, 13 Jan 1999 09:14:11 -0500 (EST) Original-Received: from sina.hpc.uh.edu (lists@Sina.HPC.UH.EDU [129.7.3.5]) by karazm.math.uh.edu (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id IAB04654; Wed, 13 Jan 1999 08:13:48 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: by sina.hpc.uh.edu (TLB v0.09a (1.20 tibbs 1996/10/09 22:03:07)); Wed, 13 Jan 1999 08:13:59 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: from sclp3.sclp.com (root@sclp3.sclp.com [204.252.123.139]) by sina.hpc.uh.edu (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id IAA27960 for ; Wed, 13 Jan 1999 08:13:51 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: from beaver.jprc.com (BEAVER.JPRC.COM [207.86.147.217]) by sclp3.sclp.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA02157 for ; Wed, 13 Jan 1999 09:13:44 -0500 (EST) Original-Received: (from karl@localhost) by beaver.jprc.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) id JAA18623; Wed, 13 Jan 1999 09:13:00 -0500 Original-To: ding@gnus.org X-Face: "5(T0tZd{6}pd~YzBG8O/*EW,.]6]@`m^e;fv65W^Y&=d"M\1H}>T~4_.kcDD.O~y3k)a6h R;Nmi>9|>Nm${2IpM0^RcUEa\jcq?KOP)C&~x51l~zCHTulL^_T|u0I^kB'z@]{`2YjQu In-Reply-To: Russ Allbery's message of "13 Jan 1999 01:38:56 -0800" Original-Lines: 38 User-Agent: Gnus/5.070069 (Pterodactyl Gnus v0.69) XEmacs/21.2(beta8) (Artemis) Precedence: list X-Majordomo: 1.94.jlt7 Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:20265 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:20265 Russ Allbery writes: > This hasn't been my experience; ImageMagick is enough better than xv that > I never use xv any more. > This surprises me. I've found ImageMagick relatively competative with xv > for most images. I keep hearing about IM, but I'd never used it, so I just experimented a while with it. Woof -- I thought xv was memory intensive: USER PID %CPU %MEM SIZE RSS TTY STAT START TIME COMMAND karl 7932 8.5 11.0 8308 6944 p2 S 08:30 0:01 xv .pict/s/ssf-nasa.j karl 7935 46.7 31.4 22284 19828 p2 S 08:31 0:05 display .pict/s/ssf-n 19Mbytes resident, just to display *one* .jpg? 3 times xv's already large requirements? Sure, the image is 1280x1024 and 227Kbytes. But /really/ now. Even with a puny 333x800, 33Kbyte image, xv weighs in at 4Mbytes while display punishes the scales at 7.8Mbytes. I'll stick with xv; my machine pages hard enough as it is. (General IM operational gripes: Why can't I type `q' on the image to make the program exit, or get a nice directory listing that doesn't do some weird thumbnail thing when I select an image from it? [I want a listing such as one gets in an xv controls window -- general selectability, without thumbnailing.] And just what is the supposed mnemonic value in having Transform->Flop as horizontal swap while Transform->Flip is vertical swap -- I'm supposed to remember this sort of cuteness? Also, the "image info" window's presence prevents anything else from being done until you dismiss it -- but often I want xv's info window to remain across images. This UI needs help.) > I'll point out as an aside that xv doesn't appear to deal at all well with > virtual desktops, tending (at least for me) to put the popup window in the > upper left corner pane. My offhand suspicion is that you're using an old window manager. xv pops up windows wherever I am under fvwm2, for example. But I remember tvtwm suffering that sort of problem.