From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/17756 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Karl Kleinpaste Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: compatibility request -- `q' in *Article* buffer shouldn't quit group Date: 11 Oct 1998 17:24:59 -400 Sender: owner-ding@hpc.uh.edu Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: coloc-standby.netfonds.no X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1035156399 2556 80.91.224.250 (20 Oct 2002 23:26:39 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 20 Oct 2002 23:26:39 +0000 (UTC) Return-Path: Original-Received: from gizmo.hpc.uh.edu (gizmo.hpc.uh.edu [129.7.102.31]) by sclp3.sclp.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA26573 for ; Sun, 11 Oct 1998 17:25:54 -0400 (EDT) Original-Received: from sina.hpc.uh.edu (sina.hpc.uh.edu [129.7.3.5]) by gizmo.hpc.uh.edu (8.7.6/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAF25551; Sun, 11 Oct 1998 15:56:51 -0500 Original-Received: by sina.hpc.uh.edu (TLB v0.09a (1.20 tibbs 1996/10/09 22:03:07)); Sun, 11 Oct 1998 16:25:48 -0500 (CDT) Original-Received: from sclp3.sclp.com (root@sclp3.sclp.com [209.195.19.139]) by sina.hpc.uh.edu (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA18687 for ; Sun, 11 Oct 1998 16:25:39 -0500 (CDT) Original-Received: from pocari-sweat.jprc.com (POCARI-SWEAT.JPRC.COM [207.86.147.217]) by sclp3.sclp.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA26555 for ; Sun, 11 Oct 1998 17:25:30 -0400 (EDT) Original-Received: (from karl@localhost) by pocari-sweat.jprc.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) id RAA32574; Sun, 11 Oct 1998 17:24:59 -0400 Original-To: ding@gnus.org X-Face: "5(T0tZd{6}pd~YzBG8O/*EW,.]6]@`m^e;fv65W^Y&=d"M\1H}>T~4_.kcDD.O~y3k)a6h R;Nmi>9|>Nm${2IpM0^RcUEa\jcq?KOP)C&~x51l~zCHTulL^_T|u0I^kB'z@]{`2YjQu In-Reply-To: Hrvoje Niksic's message of "11 Oct 1998 22:44:23 +0200" Original-Lines: 19 User-Agent: Gnus/5.070034 (Pterodactyl Gnus v0.34) XEmacs/20.4 (Emerald) Precedence: list X-Majordomo: 1.94.jlt7 Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:17756 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:17756 You're splitting semantic hairs that are already exceptionally fine. While technically not distributed as part of Gnus, TM has been "part of Gnus" insofar as Gnus explicitly referred everyone to TM. The exercise of "their own responsibility" necessary to use TM consists of a single load directive, nothing more. People have been using TM, and *only* TM, as "Gnus' MIME viewer" for years. Breaking those habits should be done with care. You might as well stop telling people to adjust their mail addresses with user-mail-address, because the definition of user-mail-address "isn't part of Gnus." Personally, I *do* think of group/summary/article as a hierarchy, for increasing precision: I get a big overview in *Group*, I see per-group specifics in *Summary*, and I get down and dirty with a particular piece of text by hitting buttonized content in *Article*. I think having `q' go back to *Summary* is a dandy idea...and I wasn't even aware until this discussion that TM did so.