From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/13411 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Karl Kleinpaste Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: [John Moreno ] Re: GNKSA and Gnus Date: 04 Jan 1998 13:07:43 -0500 Sender: owner-ding@hpc.uh.edu Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: coloc-standby.netfonds.no X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1035152784 9198 80.91.224.250 (20 Oct 2002 22:26:24 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 20 Oct 2002 22:26:24 +0000 (UTC) Return-Path: Original-Received: from xemacs.org (xemacs.cs.uiuc.edu [128.174.252.16]) by altair.xemacs.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA26808 for ; Sun, 4 Jan 1998 10:24:58 -0800 Original-Received: from farabi.hpc.uh.edu (farabi.hpc.uh.edu [129.7.102.2]) by xemacs.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA01127 for ; Sun, 4 Jan 1998 12:25:24 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: from sina.hpc.uh.edu (lists@[10.1.1.1]) by farabi.hpc.uh.edu (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id UAN15650; Thu, 1 Jan 1998 20:17:52 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: by sina.hpc.uh.edu (TLB v0.09a (1.20 tibbs 1996/10/09 22:03:07)); Sun, 04 Jan 1998 12:08:33 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: from claymore.vcinet.com (claymore.vcinet.com [208.205.12.23]) by sina.hpc.uh.edu (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id MAA27213 for ; Sun, 4 Jan 1998 12:08:25 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: (qmail 28932 invoked by uid 504); 4 Jan 1998 18:08:14 -0000 Original-Received: (qmail 28929 invoked from network); 4 Jan 1998 18:08:14 -0000 Original-Received: from pocari-sweat.jprc.com (207.86.147.217) by claymore.vcinet.com with SMTP; 4 Jan 1998 18:08:13 -0000 Original-Received: (from karl@localhost) by pocari-sweat.jprc.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) id NAA06494; Sun, 4 Jan 1998 13:07:43 -0500 Original-To: ding@gnus.org X-Face: "5(T0tZd{6}pd~YzBG8O/*EW,.]6]@`m^e;fv65W^Y&=d"M\1H}>T~4_.kcDD.O~y3k)a6h R;Nmi>9|>Nm${2IpM0^RcUEa\jcq?KOP)C&~x51l~zCHTulL^_T|u0I^kB'z@]{`2YjQu In-Reply-To: Russ Allbery's message of "04 Jan 1998 02:54:02 -0800" Precedence: list X-Majordomo: 1.94.jlt7 Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:13411 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:13411 Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen writes: >> The GNKSA has evolved from a sensible bare-bones minimum thang into >> something, uh, else, and I think the whole think has become pointless. Russ Allbery writes: > The GNKSA started as a very reasonable and interesting endeavor; it's > really a shame that it's turned into something this useless and misguided. The real horror is that GNKSA started out as nothing more challenging than codifying the behavior of rn (for the most part), and yet I recall such innumerable complaints about all the supposedly heavy requirements being forced on all those suffering software authors, most of whom just somehow couldn't get it right.