From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/42725 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Karl Kleinpaste Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Something bad seems to have happened to scoring Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2002 17:29:04 -0500 Sender: owner-ding@hpc.uh.edu Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: coloc-standby.netfonds.no Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1035177926 13349 80.91.224.250 (21 Oct 2002 05:25:26 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2002 05:25:26 +0000 (UTC) Return-Path: Original-Received: (qmail 4865 invoked from network); 28 Jan 2002 22:29:54 -0000 Original-Received: from malifon.math.uh.edu (mail@129.7.128.13) by mastaler.com with SMTP; 28 Jan 2002 22:29:54 -0000 Original-Received: from sina.hpc.uh.edu ([129.7.128.10]) by malifon.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 16VKHK-0005hA-00; Mon, 28 Jan 2002 16:29:30 -0600 Original-Received: by sina.hpc.uh.edu (TLB v0.09a (1.20 tibbs 1996/10/09 22:03:07)); Mon, 28 Jan 2002 16:29:26 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: from sclp3.sclp.com (qmailr@sclp3.sclp.com [209.196.61.66]) by sina.hpc.uh.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id QAA12141 for ; Mon, 28 Jan 2002 16:29:15 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: (qmail 4841 invoked by alias); 28 Jan 2002 22:29:12 -0000 Original-Received: (qmail 4836 invoked from network); 28 Jan 2002 22:29:10 -0000 Original-Received: from mesquite.slip.cs.cmu.edu (HELO cinnamon.vanillaknot.com) (128.2.207.11) by gnus.org with SMTP; 28 Jan 2002 22:29:10 -0000 Original-Received: (from karl@localhost) by cinnamon.vanillaknot.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g0SMT5H23779; Mon, 28 Jan 2002 17:29:05 -0500 Original-To: ding@gnus.org X-Face: "8-CgoYhiD_O!#(F%E=..0>QA_#WDy+]_XoAr)L]`-zjAc\d+nsFXq`=v_# =pVh#sP*K~j,0k9N}`E7jX"5+U?4/UIF1EE X-Face: "5(T0tZd{6}pd~YzBG8O/*EW,.]6]@`m^e;fv65W^Y&=d"M\1H}>T~4_.kcDD.O~y3k)a6 hR;Nmi>9|>Nm${2IpM0^RcUEa\jcq?KOP)C&~x51l~zCHTulL^_T|u0I^kB'z@]{`2YjQu Original-Lines: 40 User-Agent: Gnus/5.090006 (Oort Gnus v0.06) XEmacs/21.4 (Common Lisp, i686-pc-linux) Precedence: list X-Majordomo: 1.94.jlt7 Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:42725 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:42725 My score rules are behaving differently than they ought, or used to, not that long ago. I'm looking at my own outgoing archive of Usenet-posted messages. A message is marked `Y' and italicized (scored down). I wonder about this, and mumble `V t', which gives me a *Score Trace* buffer showing: ("vanillaknot.com>" 10 nil s) -> /home/karl/News/all/SCORE ("cinnamon.vanillaknot\\|mesquite.charcoal" -10 nil r) -> /home/karl/News/usenet/SCORE ("kleinpaste" 10000 nil s) -> /home/karl/News/all/SCORE ("kleinpaste" -10000 nil s) -> /home/karl/News/usenet/SCORE Short summary of triggered score rules: - I score up on things that are followups to myself, globally, and this article was one in a longish discussion chain. - But I cancel that in my "usenet" group. - I score up myself globally, so I can easily find my own messages, and so that threads in which I'm participating sort to the top.. - Again, I cancel that in my "usenet" group. Hm, it ought to be score zero. But `V S' says "-10". In a similar vein, I'm looking at articles in list.ding: O 28-Jan > [ 6: Harry Putnam ] Was I dreaming...? R 28-Jan +---> [ 7: -> ding@gnus.org ] R + 28-Jan | `---> [ 10: Josh Huber ] R 28-Jan | `---> [ 21: Harry Putnam ] R 28-Jan | `---> [ 13: ShengHuo ZHU ] O 28-Jan | `---> [ 14: Josh Huber ] Josh's article, following up to mine, scores up, based on References mentioning me. But Harry's, ShengHuo's, and Josh's 2nd are not; `V S' on each says "0", yet the `V t' *Score Trace* says: ("vanillaknot.com>" 10 nil s) -> /home/karl/News/all/SCORE So it clearly ought to have score 10. What gives?