From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/52274 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Karl Kleinpaste Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: The early gnus shars Date: Sun, 04 May 2003 19:09:45 -0400 Sender: ding-owner@lists.math.uh.edu Message-ID: References: <65orpvqy.fsf@asfast.com> <84n0i2etnm.fsf@lucy.is.informatik.uni-duisburg.de> <86bryiecs4.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> <867k96ecch.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> <65oq8l2f.fsf_-_@asfast.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1052089743 17292 80.91.224.249 (4 May 2003 23:09:03 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 4 May 2003 23:09:03 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: ding-owner+M817@lists.math.uh.edu Mon May 05 01:08:59 2003 Return-path: Original-Received: from malifon.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.13]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 19CSbK-0004UC-00 for ; Mon, 05 May 2003 01:08:59 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.math.uh.edu) by malifon.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 19CScT-0002Pk-00; Sun, 04 May 2003 18:10:09 -0500 Original-Received: from sclp3.sclp.com ([64.157.176.121]) by malifon.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 19CScM-0002Pe-00 for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Sun, 04 May 2003 18:10:02 -0500 Original-Received: (qmail 74269 invoked by alias); 4 May 2003 23:10:01 -0000 Original-Received: (qmail 74254 invoked from network); 4 May 2003 23:09:58 -0000 Original-Received: from mesquite.slip.cs.cmu.edu (HELO mesquite.charcoal.com) (128.2.207.11) by sclp3.sclp.com with SMTP; 4 May 2003 23:09:58 -0000 Original-Received: (from k@localhost) by mesquite.charcoal.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h44N9j932062; Sun, 4 May 2003 19:09:45 -0400 Original-To: ding@gnus.org X-Face: "5(T0tZd{6}pd~YzBG8O/*EW,.]6]@`m^e;fv65W^Y&=d"M\1H}>T~4_.kcDD.O~y3k)a6 hR;Nmi>9|>Nm${2IpM0^RcUEa\jcq?KOP)C&~x51l~zCHTulL^_T|u0I^kB'z@]{`2YjQu In-Reply-To: (Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen's message of "Mon, 05 May 2003 00:08:43 +0200") User-Agent: Gnus/5.1001 (Gnus v5.10.1) XEmacs/21.4 (Military Intelligence, linux) Precedence: bulk Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:52274 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:52274 Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen writes: > I wonder how much work it would be to get Gnus 2.0 up and running on > modern Emacsen -- just to see what it looks like in action. You need rnews.el and rnewspost.el -- I don't know if they're part of any Emacs or XEmacs distribution any more, though I've got ancient copies of my own from somewhere. No scorefiles, no frames, limited font switching (pretty much only the bbaacckkssppaaccee _k_i_n_d), no daemons, only one server, no mail support at all, no smileys. It doesn't know about MODE READER, which caused me a moment's consternation. Possibly the best part about it, in a backhandedly humorous mode: It auto-subscribes every possible newsgroup. Forgive Masanobu Umeda for his shortsightedness in this regard: At the time of GNUS 2.x, B News 2.11.17 was the current server software, which still used a maximum group count in defs.h of 512. My usual server today has (only) 12,000 groups. It took XEmacs 21.4, running this old GNUS, 58 seconds just to do the start-up auto-subscriptions, followed by another 54 seconds of "checking new news" before it displayed the *Newsgroup* (today's *Group*) buffer, on this AMD 1.2GHz Linux machine. Awesome. --karl