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From: Karl Kleinpaste <karl@charcoal.com>
Subject: Re: Improved (non-annoying) underlining
Date: 18 May 2000 21:41:16 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <vxksnvfl3k3.fsf@mesquite.charcoal.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: Russ Allbery's message of "18 May 2000 17:22:56 -0700"

Russ Allbery <rra@stanford.edu> writes:
> wrong here, as *emphasis like this* and *emphasis* *like* *this* do in
> fact have very different meanings, a difference of meaning that's lost by
> converting that emphasis into font changes.

Well, the whole situation is rather like old-style "ASCII art": People
would generate complex quasi-monochrome pictures based on printer
character density to get a weird greyscale kind of graphic.  It only
had any meaning before real graphic support existed for common folk.
So _this_ /kind/ of *emphasis* is the "ASCII art" way of _*showing*_
_/real/_ */typographical/* _*/variation/*_.

The fact that people expect *this emphasis* to be semantically
different from *this* *emphasis* is an indication that they've
forgotten that the concept being transmitted to the reader was
typographical variation, so the ASCII art has become an end in itself,
because there's literally no manifestation of this supposed differing
semantic in any venue other than text/plain emphasizers.

To each his own...

:-),
--karl



  reply	other threads:[~2000-05-19  1:41 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 33+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2000-05-16 21:19 Karl Kleinpaste
2000-05-16 22:03 ` Shenghuo ZHU
2000-05-17 11:41 ` Bill White
2000-05-17 12:09   ` Per Abrahamsen
2000-05-17 12:26     ` Hrvoje Niksic
2000-05-17 15:37       ` Steinar Bang
2000-05-17 12:29     ` Karl Kleinpaste
2000-05-17 12:39       ` Hrvoje Niksic
2000-05-17 12:58         ` Karl Kleinpaste
2000-05-17 13:35           ` François Pinard
2000-05-17 13:55           ` Kai Großjohann
2000-05-17 14:03             ` Karl Kleinpaste
2000-05-17 14:27               ` Alan Shutko
2000-05-17 14:40               ` Kai Großjohann
2000-05-17 14:42                 ` Karl Kleinpaste
2000-05-17 16:00                   ` Yair Friedman (Jerusalem)
2000-05-17 14:08           ` Karl Kleinpaste
2000-05-17 14:32             ` Shenghuo ZHU
2000-05-17 14:29           ` Toby Speight
2000-05-17 15:22           ` Yair Friedman (Jerusalem)
2000-05-19  0:22           ` Russ Allbery
2000-05-19  1:41             ` Karl Kleinpaste [this message]
2000-05-19  2:09               ` Dan McGuirk
2000-05-19  4:56               ` Russ Allbery
2000-05-17 13:30   ` François Pinard
2000-05-17 14:28     ` Bill White
2000-05-17 14:33       ` Bill White
2000-05-17 14:34         ` Karl Kleinpaste
2000-05-17 18:05         ` Per Abrahamsen
2000-05-17 15:36   ` Indicating hidden threads (Was: Improved (non-annoying) ...) Steinar Bang
2000-05-17 16:07     ` Bill White
2000-05-17 20:13       ` Steinar Bang
2000-05-20  9:26         ` Rade Markovic

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