From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/36079 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Karl Kleinpaste Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: security: Encrypted mail in the archive Date: 01 May 2001 08:59:20 -0400 Message-ID: References: <878zkjbom3.fsf@deneb.enyo.de> <87pudti7rz.fsf@deneb.enyo.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: coloc-standby.netfonds.no Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1035171725 6665 80.91.224.250 (21 Oct 2002 03:42:05 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2002 03:42:05 +0000 (UTC) Return-Path: Original-Received: (qmail 5763 invoked by alias); 1 May 2001 12:59:25 -0000 Original-Received: (qmail 5758 invoked from network); 1 May 2001 12:59:24 -0000 Original-Received: from mesquite.slip.cs.cmu.edu (HELO cinnamon.vanillaknot.com) (128.2.207.11) by gnus.org with SMTP; 1 May 2001 12:59:24 -0000 Original-Received: (from karl@localhost) by cinnamon.vanillaknot.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id IAA00996; Tue, 1 May 2001 08:59:20 -0400 Original-To: ding@gnus.org X-Face: ?=p^Gj2JkX~UU_@W}[q/'Dxn19x-zfIQ](y<&ky/?1-&Nz&,!W}R.Gp+"LeGojoR =RF>?!XVs{a:`Yt(gqM<#$Zy(C@]'dR4Hy4S1.I(n3:2"R:=Uy!)K9>U!gNTyH{p +_w#F[gt).$Vyvo5=9LF^PeQ(@H#}QLAbfyYxX/8t:TDR5nA\|RmJO"EwjL8tWyvM In-Reply-To: <87pudti7rz.fsf@deneb.enyo.de> (Florian Weimer's message of "01 May 2001 14:16:32 +0200") User-Agent: Gnus/5.090003 (Oort Gnus v0.03) XEmacs/21.4 (Solid Vapor) Original-Lines: 17 Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:36079 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:36079 Florian Weimer writes: > IMHO, encrypting the archived copy just gives a false sense of > security. Not at all. I don't do draft-saving, especially when writing messages sufficiently sensitive that I intend to encrypt them, and whether or not they include attachments is not germane to the question. I too want archived copies to be encrypted, to defend myself against crackers or spooks if they should happen on my filesystem. I do not want a cryptographic filesystem because that would be like swatting a fly with a Buick -- I need a little bit of very good encryption, not a lot of wasted encryption. My IP links to the universe are also encrypted (http://sites.inka.de/sites/bigred/devel/cipe.html) and these are the uses where encryption serves me well. --karl