Re: cmsg cancel <m2g0o0vhqz.fsf@ognus-5.8.8-cvs.now.playing>

Re: cmsg cancel <m2g0o0vhqz.fsf@ognus-5.8.8-cvs.now.playing>

[Harry Putnam]

Harry Putnam <reader@newsguy.com> writes:

> I am canceling my own article.

Hey, is this supposed to happen?  

I posted a duplicate message from my Mail subscription, saw what I had
done when it hit the server so went to quimby server to cancel the
extra post.

The message I'm replying to was posted by the act of me cancelling a
post, through no other action of mine.  Is that normal?

Re: cmsg cancel <m2g0o0vhqz.fsf@ognus-5.8.8-cvs.now.playing>

[Karl Kleinpaste]

Harry Putnam <reader@newsguy.com> writes:
> The message I'm replying to was posted by the act of me cancelling a
> post, through no other action of mine.  Is that normal?

Well, yeah.

This is one of the few true brekadowns of the semantic similarities
between mail and news, where the transport actually matters.  Once you
send an email message, it's gone.  You can't cancel it or recall it or
whatever.  Posting a cancellation of a mail-gatewayed news message
implies, in this case, that the cancellation itself constitutes yet
another to-be-gatewayed message.  At best, one can complain that the
newsfeeds configuration of INN on Quimby should prevent control
messages from passing through the gate.  Then folks who see just the
mail side will still see both messages you posted, but they won't see
the cancellation.

Re: cmsg cancel <m2g0o0vhqz.fsf@ognus-5.8.8-cvs.now.playing>

[Harry Putnam]

Karl Kleinpaste <karl@charcoal.com> writes:

> Harry Putnam <reader@newsguy.com> writes:
> > The message I'm replying to was posted by the act of me cancelling a
> > post, through no other action of mine.  Is that normal?
> 
> Well, yeah.
> 
> This is one of the few true brekadowns of the semantic similarities
> between mail and news, where the transport actually matters.  Once you
> send an email message, it's gone.  You can't cancel it or recall it or
> whatever.  Posting a cancellation of a mail-gatewayed news message
> implies, in this case, that the cancellation itself constitutes yet
> another to-be-gatewayed message.  At best, one can complain that the
> newsfeeds configuration of INN on Quimby should prevent control
> messages from passing through the gate.  Then folks who see just the
> mail side will still see both messages you posted, but they won't see
> the cancellation.

Ahh, so not a good move to try to cancel a mailed (smtp transport)
message through a news (nntp transport) gateway.  In this case the end
result was more unnecessary verbiage instead of the intended less.