From: Karl Kleinpaste <karl@justresearch.com>
Subject: Re: B [backspace] should act like B [delete]?
Date: 14 Jun 1999 12:23:07 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <vxkvhcqah04.fsf@beaver.jprc.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: Kai.Grossjohann@CS.Uni-Dortmund.DE's message of "14 Jun 1999 18:03:39 +0200"
Kai.Grossjohann@CS.Uni-Dortmund.DE writes:
> Normally, <backspace> and <delete> both generate DEL, and DEL (\177)
> is bound. Binding <backspace> or <delete> overrides that generation
> of DEL.
No, not so.
Under X, the key labelled "<-" generates keysym Backspace and the one
labelled "Del" generates keysym Delete. XEmacs knows the difference,
annoyingly. Experiment with xev(1), and you'll see what I mean. If
Emacs hides the distinction, it has done you a disservice.
Having grown up on the VT100 (aka "God's") keyboard¹, I inverted the
sense of these 2 keys on X keyboards for many, many years, because
Delete Belongs At The Upper Right Of The Main Keyboard². The number
of conflicts this causes, with applications which want to react to
keysym Backspace but are blissfully unaware of Delete, has gotten
large. So I finally gave in, tweaked my stty(1) invocation in
.bash_login, undid the key inversion, and went in search of unexpected
misbehavior with respect to Backspace and Delete.
My hands still want desperately to type "B <-", which is why I'd like
for the B summary submap to do -delete-article in that case.
Generally speaking, Backspace and Delete both do deletion-related
things, so it seemed to be a sensible suggestion.
--karl
¹ I have a VT102 of my very own. Really.
² Under X, I *still* invert the placement of the `~ and ESC keys -- I
even switch their keycaps -- because Escape Belongs At The Upper
Left Of The Main Keyboard. :-)
next prev parent reply other threads:[~1999-06-14 16:23 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 10+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
1999-06-14 15:27 Karl Kleinpaste
1999-06-14 16:03 ` Kai.Grossjohann
1999-06-14 16:23 ` Karl Kleinpaste [this message]
1999-06-14 21:49 ` Kai.Grossjohann
1999-06-14 17:07 ` Harry Putnam
1999-06-14 21:51 ` Kai.Grossjohann
1999-06-14 17:55 ` Hrvoje Niksic
1999-06-14 21:57 ` Kai.Grossjohann
1999-06-15 0:44 ` Karl Kleinpaste
1999-06-15 15:33 ` Hrvoje Niksic
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