From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/43980 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Karl Kleinpaste Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: Stability/value of moving from Gnus 5.8.8 to ognus 0.05 Date: Sat, 23 Mar 2002 06:38:53 -0500 Sender: owner-ding@hpc.uh.edu Message-ID: References: <861yecclxl.fsf@earthlink.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: localhost.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1016884352 4652 127.0.0.1 (23 Mar 2002 11:52:32 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 23 Mar 2002 11:52:32 +0000 (UTC) Original-Received: from hermes.netfonds.no ([195.204.10.138]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1 (Debian)) id 16ok4W-0001BY-00 for ; Sat, 23 Mar 2002 12:52:32 +0100 Original-Received: from malifon.math.uh.edu (malifon.math.uh.edu [129.7.128.13]) by hermes.netfonds.no (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id g2NBdbf28373 for ; Sat, 23 Mar 2002 12:39:37 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from sina.hpc.uh.edu ([129.7.128.10] ident=lists) by malifon.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 16ojra-0003hZ-00; Sat, 23 Mar 2002 05:39:11 -0600 Original-Received: by sina.hpc.uh.edu (TLB v0.09a (1.20 tibbs 1996/10/09 22:03:07)); Sat, 23 Mar 2002 05:39:15 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: from sclp3.sclp.com (qmailr@sclp3.sclp.com [209.196.61.66]) by sina.hpc.uh.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id FAA17235 for ; Sat, 23 Mar 2002 05:39:04 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: (qmail 2392 invoked by alias); 23 Mar 2002 11:38:54 -0000 Original-Received: (qmail 2387 invoked from network); 23 Mar 2002 11:38:53 -0000 Original-Received: from mesquite.slip.cs.cmu.edu (HELO cinnamon.vanillaknot.com) (128.2.207.11) by gnus.org with SMTP; 23 Mar 2002 11:38:52 -0000 Original-Received: (from karl@localhost) by cinnamon.vanillaknot.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g2NBcrK09288; Sat, 23 Mar 2002 06:38:53 -0500 Original-To: ding@gnus.org X-Face: "8-CgoYhiD_O!#(F%E=..0>QA_#WDy+]_XoAr)L]`-zjAc\d+nsFXq`=v_# =pVh#sP*K~j,0k9N}`E7jX"5+U?4/UIF1EE X-Face: "5(T0tZd{6}pd~YzBG8O/*EW,.]6]@`m^e;fv65W^Y&=d"M\1H}>T~4_.kcDD.O~y3k)a6 hR;Nmi>9|>Nm${2IpM0^RcUEa\jcq?KOP)C&~x51l~zCHTulL^_T|u0I^kB'z@]{`2YjQu In-Reply-To: <861yecclxl.fsf@earthlink.net> (dmkarr@earthlink.net's message of "22 Mar 2002 13:49:42 -0800") Original-Lines: 29 User-Agent: Gnus/5.090006 (Oort Gnus v0.06) XEmacs/21.4 (Common Lisp, i686-pc-linux) Precedence: list X-Majordomo: 1.94.jlt7 Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:43980 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:43980 dmkarr@earthlink.net (David M. Karr) writes: > My question is, if I install the 0.05 Oort release ("ognus", I assume?) from > "1/20/2002", is there any expectancy of any of these problems being alleviated, > and hopefully not be replaced by others? On the "XEmacs 21.4 dies after sending," no, Oort will not help. It's an XEmacs bug which bites me now and again, too. Run XEmacs under a debugger and you'll see it's dying in a window refresh routine unrelated to Gnus. Reducing text/html to non-annoyance status is doable, but I don't know how much of it can be done in 5.8, so perhaps Oort will help there. My choices for this are... (setq mm-automatic-display (remove "text/html" mm-automatic-display) mm-discouraged-alternatives '("text/html" "text/richtext") mm-inline-override-types '("text/html")) ...plus a mailcap entry, thus: text/html; TERM=rxvt lynx -dump -force_html %s -term=rxvt; copiousoutput But again, I don't know when some of this support arrived, and it might or might not be only Oortish. Your NNTP issue is not something with which I'm familiar, so I can't speak to it. --karl