From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/30772 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Karl Kleinpaste Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: drafts Date: 07 May 2000 10:11:53 -0400 Sender: owner-ding@hpc.uh.edu Message-ID: References: <877lf9hclk.fsf@uq.net.au> <7mem7ea50q.fsf@uq.net.au> NNTP-Posting-Host: coloc-standby.netfonds.no Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1035167260 10237 80.91.224.250 (21 Oct 2002 02:27:40 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2002 02:27:40 +0000 (UTC) Return-Path: Original-Received: from lisa.math.uh.edu (lisa.math.uh.edu [129.7.128.49]) by mailhost.sclp.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C516D051E for ; Sun, 7 May 2000 10:14:33 -0400 (EDT) Original-Received: from sina.hpc.uh.edu (lists@Sina.HPC.UH.EDU [129.7.3.5]) by lisa.math.uh.edu (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAB06251; Sun, 7 May 2000 09:13:58 -0500 (CDT) Original-Received: by sina.hpc.uh.edu (TLB v0.09a (1.20 tibbs 1996/10/09 22:03:07)); Sun, 07 May 2000 09:13:10 -0500 (CDT) Original-Received: from mailhost.sclp.com (postfix@sclp3.sclp.com [204.252.123.139]) by sina.hpc.uh.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA15769 for ; Sun, 7 May 2000 09:12:59 -0500 (CDT) Original-Received: from mesquite.charcoal.com (MESQUITE.SLIP.CS.CMU.EDU [128.2.207.11]) by mailhost.sclp.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B1F76D051E for ; Sun, 7 May 2000 10:11:54 -0400 (EDT) Original-Received: (from karl@localhost) by mesquite.charcoal.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA25927; Sun, 7 May 2000 10:11:53 -0400 Original-To: ding@gnus.org X-Face: "5(T0tZd{6}pd~YzBG8O/*EW,.]6]@`m^e;fv65W^Y&=d"M\1H}>T~4_.kcDD.O~y3k)a6h R;Nmi>9|>Nm${2IpM0^RcUEa\jcq?KOP)C&~x51l~zCHTulL^_T|u0I^kB'z@]{`2YjQu In-Reply-To: Clinton Roy's message of "07 May 2000 23:01:09 +1000" Original-Lines: 50 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0807 (Gnus v5.8.7) XEmacs/21.2 (Iris) Precedence: list X-Majordomo: 1.94.jlt7 Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:30772 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:30772 Clinton Roy writes: > 1) What's the deal with getting the extra header information? Does > everything get slowed down now that Gnus is parsing an extra header > for me, even though I only want it to for one group? Getting the extra header info out of the article in "drafts" takes as long as any other single header, and since there is no .overview, it must be parsed out of the articles each time you enter. There shouldn't be any appreciable slowdown. > 2) Getting that header information into the summary line is a > pain. Why isn't there a format spec for the To header? Why the > complex two-in-one spec and another regexp? As I recall, Lars felt that %n's purpose ("from" only) was sufficiently distinct from %f ("from, to, or newsgroups") that a distinct specifier was in order. I suggested making %f the default; he declined for this reason. > 3) I did at one stage have the new summary line format string without > %U in it. Deleting a draft message didn't make the normal > %highlighting happen. This effect of this spec is documented > somewhere, right? No idea; never tried. > 4) My format spec has to cut off the first two characters of the > From/To header, as it's ``->''. What's this from? See gnus-summary-from-or-to-or-newsgroups in gnus-sum.el, line 2589 in the very latest incantation. To better indicate that this is a message which is going somwhere, instead of mail which came from somewhere, the code adds "->" as a visual aid. This is particularly useful in mail groups where threaded discussions will be found. Similarly, newsgroup postings get "=>" added to the group name. > My suggestions would be to do either: > 1) Have the drafts group do some magic and set this up as default. That's not a bad idea, setting up local variables for the drafts group in its group properties. > 2) Have a paragraph in the manual describing how to do it. The basics of this are covered in the manual... http://quimby.gnus.org/gnus/manual/gnus_50.html#IDX505 ...or in the *Info* system via `C-h i' -> Gnus -> The Summary Buffer -> Summary Buffer Format -> To From Newsgroups