From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/45786 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Karl Kleinpaste Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: B DEL is being treated as expiry? Date: Tue, 23 Jul 2002 12:03:44 -0400 Sender: owner-ding@hpc.uh.edu Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: localhost.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-15 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1027440281 11284 127.0.0.1 (23 Jul 2002 16:04:41 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 23 Jul 2002 16:04:41 +0000 (UTC) Return-path: Original-Received: from malifon.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.13]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1 (Debian)) id 17X29P-0002vs-00 for ; Tue, 23 Jul 2002 18:04:40 +0200 Original-Received: from sina.hpc.uh.edu ([129.7.128.10] ident=lists) by malifon.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 17X290-0003I6-00; Tue, 23 Jul 2002 11:04:14 -0500 Original-Received: by sina.hpc.uh.edu (TLB v0.09a (1.20 tibbs 1996/10/09 22:03:07)); Tue, 23 Jul 2002 11:04:40 -0500 (CDT) Original-Received: from sclp3.sclp.com (qmailr@sclp3.sclp.com [209.196.61.66]) by sina.hpc.uh.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id LAA21432 for ; Tue, 23 Jul 2002 11:04:29 -0500 (CDT) Original-Received: (qmail 2895 invoked by alias); 23 Jul 2002 16:04:00 -0000 Original-Received: (qmail 2890 invoked from network); 23 Jul 2002 16:03:53 -0000 Original-Received: from mesquite.slip.cs.cmu.edu (HELO cinnamon.vanillaknot.com) (128.2.207.11) by gnus.org with SMTP; 23 Jul 2002 16:03:53 -0000 Original-Received: (from karl@localhost) by cinnamon.vanillaknot.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g6NG3iT31110; Tue, 23 Jul 2002 12:03:44 -0400 Original-To: ding@gnus.org X-Face: "5(T0tZd{6}pd~YzBG8O/*EW,.]6]@`m^e;fv65W^Y&=d"M\1H}>T~4_.kcDD.O~y3k)a6 hR;Nmi>9|>Nm${2IpM0^RcUEa\jcq?KOP)C&~x51l~zCHTulL^_T|u0I^kB'z@]{`2YjQu Original-Lines: 21 User-Agent: Gnus/5.090007 (Oort Gnus v0.07) XEmacs/21.4 (Honest Recruiter, i686-pc-linux) Precedence: list X-Majordomo: 1.94.jlt7 Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:45786 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:45786 Kai.Grossjohann@CS.Uni-Dortmund.DE (Kai Gro=DFjohann) writes: > The current situation is better than before Nevin's change,=20 No, it isn't, because it used to be the case that when I said, "delete this," *it was deleted*. Perhaps there was some flaw in how deletion was done, but *at least articles went away* as ordered. It makes no sense to say, "the current situation is better, now that the basic operation of the function in question is to do something completely foreign to what the function is designed and advertised to do." > because before Nevin's change, _some_ parameters got respected and > others didn't. So depending on how you set expiry-target, B DEL > would respect it. Now at least it's consistent. The only group parameter consistency that has meaning here is to ignore them all, because the article is going away forever, and the ongoing operation of group parameters can have no meaning for an article file which doesn't even exist. At the very least, the change which induced expiry should be reverted so that we get deletions back.