From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/22189 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Christopher K Davis Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: bad (i.e. serious) mail problems Date: 31 Mar 1999 11:21:19 -0500 Sender: owner-ding@hpc.uh.edu Message-ID: References: <99Mar30.101000est.13914-3@gateway.intersys.com> <99Mar31.100918est.13949-3@gateway.intersys.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: coloc-standby.netfonds.no Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.108) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1035160154 26844 80.91.224.250 (21 Oct 2002 00:29:14 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2002 00:29:14 +0000 (UTC) Return-Path: Original-Received: from farabi.math.uh.edu (farabi.math.uh.edu [129.7.128.57]) by sclp3.sclp.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA13181 for ; Wed, 31 Mar 1999 11:26:06 -0500 (EST) Original-Received: from sina.hpc.uh.edu (lists@Sina.HPC.UH.EDU [129.7.3.5]) by farabi.math.uh.edu (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAB01102; Wed, 31 Mar 1999 10:22:07 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: by sina.hpc.uh.edu (TLB v0.09a (1.20 tibbs 1996/10/09 22:03:07)); Wed, 31 Mar 1999 10:22:34 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: from sclp3.sclp.com (root@sclp3.sclp.com [204.252.123.139]) by sina.hpc.uh.edu (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA28566 for ; Wed, 31 Mar 1999 10:22:11 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: from kline-station.ckdhr.com (qmailr@kline-station.ckdhr.com [209.192.160.22]) by sclp3.sclp.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id LAA13067 for ; Wed, 31 Mar 1999 11:21:59 -0500 (EST) Original-Received: (qmail 21947 invoked by uid 139); 31 Mar 1999 16:21:19 -0000 Original-To: "\(ding\)" X-Face: I8Alb*-ZdjN\/8k_QR,^l^m6GQB'S-B:}DVP].1HOw#tx:TX$k;Wl;4zqjWR|-jheM#? &beRf(!|0b0m=M~=%.Am>"QEY.(#Ys.%"s?z,hmwp&y0%p>9+T X-Attribution: ckd In-Reply-To: Stainless Steel Rat's message of "Wed, 31 Mar 1999 10:11:31 -0500" Original-Lines: 31 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.6.44/XEmacs 20.4 - "Emerald" Precedence: list X-Majordomo: 1.94.jlt7 Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:22189 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:22189 Stainless Steel Rat writes: > That a *MESSGE* starts with "From " *IS* sufficient indication that the > spoolis in mbox format. The first line retrieved by the POP RETR command > will be either a message delimiter or an RFC 822 header. It cannot be > anything else. If it is an MMDF delimiter, it is an MMDF spool. If it is > a Babyl delimiter, it is a Babyl spool. If it is an RFC 822 header, the > POP server is broken. Au contraire. RFC1939: 11. Message Format All messages transmitted during a POP3 session are assumed to conform to the standard for the format of Internet text messages [RFC822]. Note that RFC 822 does *not* include delimeters, whether they be Unix mbox format, MMDF, Babyl, or CrUnChYbItSoFsTuDlYcApS. So, if any POP servers are "broken" according to the spec, the ones that are leaving the delimeters *in* are! Note that SMTP and POP use dot-stuffing to create protocol-level delimeters. Note that maildir format (and, for that matter, nnml ;-) delimit messages by using the filesystem. "From ", "From " with a Content-Length header, ^A^A^A^A, or Babyl delimeters are not the only possibilities. Depending on them to be there is probably unwise. -- Christopher Davis * * Put location information in your DNS!