From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/6696 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Christopher Davis Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: little nits with 5.2.15 Date: 14 Jun 1996 14:28:36 -0400 Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: coloc-standby.netfonds.no Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.68) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1035147114 4453 80.91.224.250 (20 Oct 2002 20:51:54 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 20 Oct 2002 20:51:54 +0000 (UTC) Cc: ding@ifi.uio.no Return-Path: ding-request@ifi.uio.no Original-Received: from ifi.uio.no (ifi.uio.no [129.240.64.2]) by deanna.miranova.com (8.7.5/8.6.9) with SMTP id LAA17709 for ; Fri, 14 Jun 1996 11:49:55 -0700 Original-Received: from loiosh.kei.com (ckd@loiosh.kei.com [192.88.144.32]) by ifi.uio.no with ESMTP (8.6.11/ifi2.4) id for ; Fri, 14 Jun 1996 20:29:37 +0200 Original-Received: (from ckd@localhost) by loiosh.kei.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) id OAA02956; Fri, 14 Jun 1996 14:28:37 -0400 (EDT) Original-To: steve@miranova.com (Steven L Baur) X-Attribution: ckd In-Reply-To: steve@miranova.com's message of 14 Jun 96 04:30:59 GMT Original-Lines: 98 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.2.15/XEmacs 19.14 Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:6696 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:6696 [Ah, aren't interactions between various packages fun?] SLB> == Steven L Baur ckd> - point seems to jump around in the summary buffer when selecting ckd> the next article; this didn't happen with 5.0.15 (on beta21, but I ckd> don't think anything in that area of XEmacs changed). SLB> I don't notice this. Does the behavior change if you add (setq SLB> gnus-auto-center-summary nil) to your .gnus? Yes. The jumping around goes away if I do that. I should be more specific about the jumping around: it basically goes something like the following paragraph. (I might have the order a little off, it's hard to be sure what happens exactly when on X. It's easier to see on a slow tty.) The cursor moves to the next line, near the beginning (one character in, I think). The "R" mark gets added. The new message is displayed. The cursor moves to the colon. The buffer moves up a line. It's REALLY distracting. (Even worse on a tty :) SLB> This kind of sounds like the XEmacs off-by-1 auto-center bug, but I SLB> thought it was fixed. I discovered how much I hated auto-centering SLB> so I have left it turned off in my environment. I do like auto-centering (though it seems to be working differently than I remember it). I also thought the OBOB was fixed, and in any case I shouldn't be seeing it, because as a workaround when it WAS a problem I turned off the horizontal scrollbar and the modeline shadow, so I don't get any clipped lines (and wasn't that what was triggering it?). The auto-centering behavior I remember, when used with a 5-line summary buffer, always auto-centered on the second line from the top, giving you one line of "look-behind" and three of "look-ahead". It did *not* do what Gnus 5.2 is doing, which is to auto-center on the second line from the top unless there would be blank lines in the window. (I *want* the blank lines, that's how I can tell I'm at the end of the group without having to look at the modelines.) ckd> - [tm bug?] Is there a way to get message-mode to add my .signature ckd> after I hit C-c C-c but before tm-edit MIME-fies the message? ckd> tm-edit doesn't put in the proper signature separator. (This ckd> should only happen in news buffers; mail shouldn't get a ckd> .signature unless I ask for it.) SLB> Examine the hook order carefully on message-send-hook, and arrange to SLB> have your .signature inserter put ahead of mime-editor/maybe-translate. SLB> There's message insert-signature, and message-news-p, and SLB> message-mail-p for deciding when to do what. The message setup SLB> hooks are broken though, so you can't customize your .signature by SLB> hook alone based on News -vs- Mail (unless this has very recently SLB> been fixed). Well, that I can fix. Something like this (as yet untested :) should work. (tm should maybe add mime-editor/maybe-translate to the end of message-send-hook, rather than the beginning...then I wouldn't need to do this trickery.) (defun ckd-maybe-add-signature () "Maybe add a .signature before posting." (if (message-news-p) (message-insert-signature t))) ;; slight trickiness here (order-dependent hook setting) (add-hook 'mime-setup-load-hook '(lambda () (add-hook 'message-send-hook 'ckd-maybe-add-signature))) ckd> - the signature separator, like mail-header-separator, should be ckd> added to paragraph-separate when in message-mode so that filling ckd> the last paragraph of a message doesn't fill your .signature with ckd> it. SLB> Yup. That is annoying. Easily fixed, though; just add "-- $\\|" to the concat in message.el. ckd> - W w is broken somehow; it's filling things without paying any ckd> attention to paragraph separators. I am using filladapt, but it ckd> didn't do this before. SLB> Filladapt is partially broken on 19.14. Well, okay, but that's not causing my problem; the replacement of "gnus-article-word-wrap" with "gnus-article-fill-cited-article" is causing the problem. (M-x gnus-article-word-wrap Does The Right Thing; W w, or gnus-article-fill-cited-article, is breaking stuff.) I'm not -- Christopher Davis "I conclude that the CDA is unconstitutional and that the First Amendment denies Congress the power to regulate protected speech on the Internet." -- Judge Stewart Dalzell in _ACLU v. Reno_