* September Gnus 0.31 is released @ 1996-01-25 16:12 Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen 1996-01-25 18:36 ` Steven L Baur 1996-01-25 23:54 ` srivasta 0 siblings, 2 replies; 21+ messages in thread From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen @ 1996-01-25 16:12 UTC (permalink / raw) This is the last featureful release in the September series. All releases from here on out will just be bug fixes. If you're using XEmacs, you need to get the new etc.tar.gz package. Get it from <URL:http://www.ifi.uio.no/~larsi/sgnus.tar.gz> or "ftp.ifi.uio.no:/pub/emacs/gnus/". ChangeLog since last release: Thu Jan 25 08:41:44 1996 Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen <larsi@eistla.ifi.uio.no> * nnml.el (nnml-deletable-article-p): Always responed with nil. Thu Jan 25 08:45:52 1996 Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen <larsi@ifi.uio.no> * gnus.el: 0.31 is released. * nnmail.el (nnmail-insert-lines): Would return negative lines numbers. * gnus-xmas.el (gnus-xmas-extent-start-open): New function. * gnus-topic.el (gnus-topic-insert-topic-line): Remove excess properties. * gnus-xmas.el (gnus-xmas-topic-remove-excess-properties): New function. Thu Jan 25 07:34:05 1996 Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen <larsi@eistla.ifi.uio.no> * gnus-ems.el (gnus-extent-detached-p): New alias. * gnus-xmas.el (gnus-xmas-find-glyph-directory): Changed from "etc" to "etc/gnus". Tue Jan 23 13:40:35 1996 Lars Ingebrigtsen <lars@eyesore.no> * gnus-score.el (gnus-score-make-menu-bar): New function. (gnus-score-menu-hook): New variable. * gnus-vis.el (gnus-article-next-button): Move point. * nndoc.el (nndoc-type-alist): Recognize ends of digests. (nndoc-retrieve-headers): Don't bug out on non-existant articles. * gnus-msg.el (gnus-mail-buffer): Renamed. * gnus-cache.el (gnus-cache-possibly-remove-articles): Check some more. * nnmail.el (nnmail-insert-lines): Off by 1. * nnml.el (nnml-deletable-article-p): Check for file writability. * nnmh.el (nnml-deletable-article-p): Ditto. * gnus-msg.el (gnus-associate-buffer-with-draft): Allow disabling. (gnus-use-draft): New variable. * gnus.el (gnus-summary-move-article): Use `move' action by default. * nnmail.el (nnmail-get-split-group): Be more restrictive in selecting procmail spools. (nnmail-get-spool-files): Don't return the spool file when doing a single procmail file. * gnus.el (gnus-summary-move-article): Allow moving to the same group. * gnus-score.el (gnus-score-pretty-print): New command and keystroke. (gnus-summary-increase-score): Would always bug out. (gnus-score-edit-done): Change windows before loading score file. * gnus.el (gnus-summary-reparent-thread): Rethread after reparenting. * gnus-xmas.el (gnus-xmas-make-overlay): Don't make extents undetachable. * nndoc.el (nndoc-post-type): New variable. Tue Jan 23 13:39:11 1996 Eberhard Mattes <mattes@azu.informatik.uni-stuttgart.de> * nndoc.el (nndoc-request-type): New function. Tue Jan 23 00:13:10 1996 Lars Ingebrigtsen <lars@eyesore.no> * gnus.el (gnus-group-group-indentation): New function. (gnus-group-update-group-line): Use it. (gnus-group-update-group): Indent. * gnus-topic.el (gnus-topic-hide-subtopics): Removed variable. (gnus-topic-prepare-topic): Indent group lines. (gnus-topic-yank-group): Indent groups. * gnus.el (gnus-group-update-hook): New variable. (gnus-group-insert-group-line): Use it. * gnus-vis.el (gnus-group-highlight-line): New function. * gnus.el (gnus-group-entry): New macro. * gnus-vis.el (gnus-group-highlight): New variable. * gnus-topic.el (gnus-topic-insert-topic-line): Would show "..." too often. (gnus-topic-indent): Don't move point. (gnus-topic-unindent): Ditto. (gnus-topic-prepare-topic): Display unread articles in sub-topics. * nnsoup.el (nnsoup-next-prefix): New function. (nnsoup-read-areas): Use it. * gnus-soup.el (gnus-soup-set-area-prefix): New macro. * nnsoup.el (nnsoup-tmp-directory): New directory. (nnsoup-write-active-file): Save it. (nnsoup-unpack-packets): Use it. * gnus-msg.el (gnus-dissociate-buffer-from-draft): New command and keystroke. * gnus.el (gnus-group-list-groups): Goto last group if at eob. * gnus-topic.el (gnus-topic-mode): Use it. (gnus-topic-goto-next-group): New function. * gnus.el (gnus-group-list-groups): Allow positioning point in topic buffers. (gnus-group-goto-next-group-function): New internal variable. * nnsoup.el (nnsoup-read-active-file): Give a proper return value. * gnus.el (gnus-start-news-server): Give a better error message. Mon Jan 21 23:34:55 1996 Morioka Tomohiko <morioka@jaist.ac.jp> * gnus-mh.el (gnus-mh-mail-setup): It didn't work when pressing `R' or yanking because of lack of setting to variable `mail-reply-buffer' and mh-sent-from-folder buffer local variable `mh-show-buffer'. Mon Jan 22 02:58:42 1996 Lars Ingebrigtsen <lars@eyesore.no> * nntp.el (nntp-open-server-internal): Make sure that the server was successfully opened. * gnus.el (gnus-read-active-file): Wouldn't activate properly. (gnus-read-active-file): Ignore errors from the archive server. * nnbabyl.el (nnbabyl-request-group): Ditto. * nnmbox.el (nnmbox-request-group): Would bug out. Sat Jan 20 20:39:03 1996 Steven L. Baur <steve@miranova.com> * nnmbox.el (nnmbox-read-mbox): find-file-noselect -> nnheader-find-file-noselect. Mon Jan 22 01:15:52 1996 Lars Ingebrigtsen <lars@eyesore.no> * gnus.el (gnus-group-mark-buffer): Optional param. * nnsoup.el (nnsoup-request-expire-articles): Message more. (nnsoup-read-active-file): Add proper active info. (nnsoup-request-group): New implementation. (nnsoup-request-list): Ditto. Sun Jan 21 08:22:47 1996 Lars Ingebrigtsen <lars@eyesore.no> * gnus.el (gnus-request-article-this-buffer): Update sparse articles. (gnus-data-set-number): New macro. (gnus-summary-update-article): Use it. Sun Jan 21 03:54:18 1996 Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen <larsi@eistla.ifi.uio.no> * gnus-soup.el (gnus-soup-add-article): Don't save canceled articles. -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) larsi@ifi.uio.no * Lars Ingebrigtsen ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 21+ messages in thread
* Re: September Gnus 0.31 is released 1996-01-25 16:12 September Gnus 0.31 is released Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen @ 1996-01-25 18:36 ` Steven L Baur 1996-01-25 21:50 ` Wes Hardaker ` (2 more replies) 1996-01-25 23:54 ` srivasta 1 sibling, 3 replies; 21+ messages in thread From: Steven L Baur @ 1996-01-25 18:36 UTC (permalink / raw) Colors in the *Group* buffer at last! When changing the pointer to the glyph directory for XEmacs, you need to add the gnus subdirectory now: (setq gnus-xmas-glyph-directory "/usr/local/lib/xemacs/etc-0.4/gnus/") gnus.xpm is still weighing in at 182 colors. I've hacked it down to 4: ftp://ftp.miranova.com/pub/gnus/gnus.xpm.gz The background is now light blue, but it doesn't kill your global colormap if you only have 256 colors. Regards, -- steve@miranova.com baur Unsolicited commercial e-mail will be proofread for $250/hour. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 21+ messages in thread
* Re: September Gnus 0.31 is released 1996-01-25 18:36 ` Steven L Baur @ 1996-01-25 21:50 ` Wes Hardaker 1996-01-25 22:44 ` luis fernandes 1996-01-26 16:46 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen 2 siblings, 0 replies; 21+ messages in thread From: Wes Hardaker @ 1996-01-25 21:50 UTC (permalink / raw) Cc: ding Steven L Baur <steve@miranova.com> writes: |> gnus.xpm is still weighing in at 182 colors. I've hacked it down to |> 4: |> ftp://ftp.miranova.com/pub/gnus/gnus.xpm.gz |> The background is now light blue, but it doesn't kill your global |> colormap if you only have 256 colors. *** gnus.xpm Thu Jan 25 13:47:57 1996 --- gnus.xpm.~1~ Thu Jan 25 10:26:34 1996 *************** *** 4,10 **** "288 308 4 1", /* colors */ "` c #7CAEAE", ! "a s background c None", "b c #40597F", "c c #A4C4B8", /* pixels */ --- 4,10 ---- "288 308 4 1", /* colors */ "` c #7CAEAE", ! "a c #B2C0DC", "b c #40597F", "c c #A4C4B8", /* pixels */ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 21+ messages in thread
* Re: September Gnus 0.31 is released 1996-01-25 18:36 ` Steven L Baur 1996-01-25 21:50 ` Wes Hardaker @ 1996-01-25 22:44 ` luis fernandes 1996-01-26 1:07 ` Steven L Baur 1996-01-26 15:28 ` Colin Rafferty 1996-01-26 16:46 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen 2 siblings, 2 replies; 21+ messages in thread From: luis fernandes @ 1996-01-25 22:44 UTC (permalink / raw) Cc: ding >>>>> "steve" == Steven L Baur <steve@miranova.com> writes: > ... The background is now light blue, I would recommend making the background colour transparent (assuming the XEmacs xpm rendering code honours the transparent code); i.e. let the start-up screen-image inherit whatever background the user prefers. (Not wishing to be anti-social, &c.). ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 21+ messages in thread
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* Re: September Gnus 0.31 is released 1996-01-25 22:44 ` luis fernandes 1996-01-26 1:07 ` Steven L Baur @ 1996-01-26 15:28 ` Colin Rafferty 1996-01-26 17:47 ` Wes Hardaker ` (2 more replies) 1 sibling, 3 replies; 21+ messages in thread From: Colin Rafferty @ 1996-01-26 15:28 UTC (permalink / raw) Cc: steve luis fernandes writes: >>>>>> "steve" == Steven L Baur <steve@miranova.com> writes: >> ... The background is now light blue, > I would recommend making the background colour transparent (assuming > the XEmacs xpm rendering code honours the transparent code); i.e. let > the start-up screen-image inherit whatever background the user > prefers. I disagree. I think that if you set the foreground, you must set the background. Otherwise, what do you do about people whose default backgrounds clash with (or match) one of the foreground colors. I'm sorry, but this is my pet peeve about web pages also -- people think that they know better what foreground colors I want for links, etc., and don't take into account that I have a black background rather than a light grey. -- Colin ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 21+ messages in thread
* Re: September Gnus 0.31 is released 1996-01-26 15:28 ` Colin Rafferty @ 1996-01-26 17:47 ` Wes Hardaker 1996-01-26 17:48 ` Steven L Baur 1996-01-27 20:33 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen 2 siblings, 0 replies; 21+ messages in thread From: Wes Hardaker @ 1996-01-26 17:47 UTC (permalink / raw) Cc: GNUS Mailing List, steve craffert@sps.ml.com (Colin Rafferty) writes: |> I disagree. I think that if you set the foreground, you must set the |> background. Otherwise, what do you do about people whose default |> backgrounds clash with (or match) one of the foreground colors. Wow... Sounds like... Yessss... Could it be: New variable time!!! (defvar gnus-xmas-neato-xpm-file-or-neato-file-number-two-with-transparent-background "gnus.tr.xpm" "Describes the file to load as the pretty picture. Should be either gnus.tr.xpm or gnus.bg.xpm.") (chuckle 10) |> I'm sorry, but this is my pet peeve about web pages also -- people think |> that they know better what foreground colors I want for links, etc., and |> don't take into account that I have a black background rather than a |> light grey. Well, those people should also set the background color. You are right, it is silly to set the font color unless you also set the background. However, if the colors are compatible (mine is only slightly different (greyer) from the background in the image) the screen looks MUCH better. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 21+ messages in thread
* Re: September Gnus 0.31 is released 1996-01-26 15:28 ` Colin Rafferty 1996-01-26 17:47 ` Wes Hardaker @ 1996-01-26 17:48 ` Steven L Baur 1996-01-27 20:33 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen 2 siblings, 0 replies; 21+ messages in thread From: Steven L Baur @ 1996-01-26 17:48 UTC (permalink / raw) [Please do not Cc: me when sending messages to this mailing list]. >>>>> "Colin" == Colin Rafferty <craffert@sps.ml.com> writes: Colin> luis fernandes writes: >>>>>>> "steve" == Steven L Baur <steve@miranova.com> writes: >>> ... The background is now light blue, >> I would recommend making the background colour transparent (assuming >> the XEmacs xpm rendering code honours the transparent code); i.e. let >> the start-up screen-image inherit whatever background the user >> prefers. Colin> I disagree. I think that if you set the foreground, you must set the Colin> background. Otherwise, what do you do about people whose default Colin> backgrounds clash with (or match) one of the foreground colors. Colin> I'm sorry, but this is my pet peeve about web pages also -- people think Colin> that they know better what foreground colors I want for links, etc., and Colin> don't take into account that I have a black background rather than a Colin> light grey. Good point. Would it be worthwhile to have different versions of the logo selected the same way the citation faces are? Perhaps the xpm-color-symbol variable can be of some use here. xpm-color-symbols's value is (("foreground" (face-foreground (quote default))) ("background" (face-background (quote default))) ("backgroundToolBarColor" (x-get-resource "backgroundToolBarColor" "BackgroundToolBarColor" (quote string)))) Documentation: Definitions of logical color-names used when reading XPM files. Elements of this list should be of the form (COLOR-NAME FORM-TO-EVALUATE). The COLOR-NAME should be a string, which is the name of the color to define; the FORM should evaluate to a `color' specifier object, or a string to be passed to `make-color-instance'. If a loaded XPM file references a symbolic color called COLOR-NAME, it will display as the computed color instead. The default value of this variable defines the logical color names "foreground" and "background" to be the colors of the `default' face. -- steve@miranova.com baur Unsolicited commercial e-mail will be proofread for $250/hour. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 21+ messages in thread
* Re: September Gnus 0.31 is released 1996-01-26 15:28 ` Colin Rafferty 1996-01-26 17:47 ` Wes Hardaker 1996-01-26 17:48 ` Steven L Baur @ 1996-01-27 20:33 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen 2 siblings, 0 replies; 21+ messages in thread From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen @ 1996-01-27 20:33 UTC (permalink / raw) craffert@sps.ml.com (Colin Rafferty) writes: > I disagree. I think that if you set the foreground, you must set the > background. Otherwise, what do you do about people whose default > backgrounds clash with (or match) one of the foreground colors. That's true. However, the logo is in two colors (thin strokes over thick strokes), so no matter what the background color is, one will be able to see (at least) the thin strokes. Most of them, anyway. -- "Yes. The journey through the human heart would have to wait until some other time." ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 21+ messages in thread
* Re: September Gnus 0.31 is released 1996-01-25 18:36 ` Steven L Baur 1996-01-25 21:50 ` Wes Hardaker 1996-01-25 22:44 ` luis fernandes @ 1996-01-26 16:46 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen 1996-01-26 17:37 ` Steven L Baur 2 siblings, 1 reply; 21+ messages in thread From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen @ 1996-01-26 16:46 UTC (permalink / raw) Steven L Baur <steve@miranova.com> writes: > When changing the pointer to the glyph directory for XEmacs, you need > to add the gnus subdirectory now: > > (setq gnus-xmas-glyph-directory "/usr/local/lib/xemacs/etc-0.4/gnus/") Or you can rename "etc-0.4" to "etc" and put it in the "sgnus" directory. Gnus searches the load path, strips off trailing "lisp" elements from the paths and sees whether it can find the "etc/gnus" directory. -- "Yes. The journey through the human heart would have to wait until some other time." ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 21+ messages in thread
* Re: September Gnus 0.31 is released 1996-01-26 16:46 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen @ 1996-01-26 17:37 ` Steven L Baur 1996-01-27 20:33 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen 0 siblings, 1 reply; 21+ messages in thread From: Steven L Baur @ 1996-01-26 17:37 UTC (permalink / raw) >>>>> "Lars" == Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen <larsi@ifi.uio.no> writes: Lars> Steven L Baur <steve@miranova.com> writes: >> When changing the pointer to the glyph directory for XEmacs, you need >> to add the gnus subdirectory now: >> >> (setq gnus-xmas-glyph-directory "/usr/local/lib/xemacs/etc-0.4/gnus/") Lars> Or you can rename "etc-0.4" to "etc" and put it in the "sgnus" Lars> directory. Gnus searches the load path, strips off trailing "lisp" Lars> elements from the paths and sees whether it can find the "etc/gnus" Lars> directory. I assume you mean: $ cd /usr/local/lib/xemacs/sgnus-0.32 $ ls -l -rw-r--r-- 1 steve devel 161 Jan 26 08:11 Makefile lrwxrwxrwx 1 steve devel 12 Jan 26 08:10 RCS -> ../sgnus/RCS/ lrwxrwxrwx 1 steve devel 10 Jan 26 09:30 etc -> ../etc-0.4/ drwxr-xr-x 2 steve devel 2048 Jan 26 08:21 lisp/ -rw-r--r-- 1 steve devel 1893 Jan 26 08:11 readme drwxr-xr-x 2 steve devel 1024 Jan 26 08:11 texi/ I don't have a problem adding this link by hand, since I run a script anyway to link new source trees to the RCS tree I keep. But perhaps for the non-beta releases you could put that symbolic link in the distribution. -- steve@miranova.com baur Unsolicited commercial e-mail will be proofread for $250/hour. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 21+ messages in thread
* Re: September Gnus 0.31 is released 1996-01-26 17:37 ` Steven L Baur @ 1996-01-27 20:33 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen 1996-01-28 0:13 ` Steven L Baur 0 siblings, 1 reply; 21+ messages in thread From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen @ 1996-01-27 20:33 UTC (permalink / raw) Steven L Baur <steve@miranova.com> writes: > Lars> Or you can rename "etc-0.4" to "etc" and put it in the "sgnus" > Lars> directory. Gnus searches the load path, strips off trailing "lisp" > Lars> elements from the paths and sees whether it can find the "etc/gnus" > Lars> directory. > > I assume you mean: > $ cd /usr/local/lib/xemacs/sgnus-0.32 > $ ls -l > -rw-r--r-- 1 steve devel 161 Jan 26 08:11 Makefile > lrwxrwxrwx 1 steve devel 12 Jan 26 08:10 RCS -> ../sgnus/RCS/ > lrwxrwxrwx 1 steve devel 10 Jan 26 09:30 etc -> ../etc-0.4/ Oh, I though everybody just renamed the "sgnus-0.x" directory to "sgnus" and did the same with the "etc-0.x" directory... but I guess that means moving the "etc" dir into the new "sgnus" dir for each release, which must be a pain. Of course, one could just write a tiny script to do that automatically to rename-old/unpack/rename/move etc... -- "Yes. The journey through the human heart would have to wait until some other time." ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 21+ messages in thread
* Re: September Gnus 0.31 is released 1996-01-27 20:33 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen @ 1996-01-28 0:13 ` Steven L Baur 1996-01-30 16:29 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen 0 siblings, 1 reply; 21+ messages in thread From: Steven L Baur @ 1996-01-28 0:13 UTC (permalink / raw) >>>>> "Lars" == Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen <larsi@ifi.uio.no> writes: Lars> Steven L Baur <steve@miranova.com> writes: Lars> Or you can rename "etc-0.4" to "etc" and put it in the "sgnus" Lars> directory. Gnus searches the load path, strips off trailing "lisp" Lars> elements from the paths and sees whether it can find the "etc/gnus" Lars> directory. >> >> I assume you mean: >> $ cd /usr/local/lib/xemacs/sgnus-0.32 >> $ ls -l >> -rw-r--r-- 1 steve devel 161 Jan 26 08:11 Makefile >> lrwxrwxrwx 1 steve devel 12 Jan 26 08:10 RCS -> ../sgnus/RCS/ >> lrwxrwxrwx 1 steve devel 10 Jan 26 09:30 etc -> ../etc-0.4/ Lars> Oh, I though everybody just renamed the "sgnus-0.x" directory to Lars> "sgnus" and did the same with the "etc-0.x" directory... but I guess Lars> that means moving the "etc" dir into the new "sgnus" dir for each Lars> release, which must be a pain. Of course, one could just write a tiny Lars> script to do that automatically to rename-old/unpack/rename/move etc... Generally speaking, with a development mail system it is not a wise idea to trash an older working version in favor of the next set of patches. I like new (version dependent) directory names, since by default, the previous version's .elc files won't be touched. The biggest inconvenience has been the change of certain functions to macros. It would be nice(r) not to have to rebytecompile dependent packages like TM and Mailcrypt with each gnus change. Gnus development updates come out on average around 2 per week (18 versions, 63 days, since sgnus v0.14 on 26 November), so this is a reasonably important topic. -- steve@miranova.com baur Unsolicited commercial e-mail will be proofread for $250/hour. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 21+ messages in thread
* Re: September Gnus 0.31 is released 1996-01-28 0:13 ` Steven L Baur @ 1996-01-30 16:29 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen 0 siblings, 0 replies; 21+ messages in thread From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen @ 1996-01-30 16:29 UTC (permalink / raw) Steven L Baur <steve@miranova.com> writes: > Generally speaking, with a development mail system it is not a wise > idea to trash an older working version in favor of the next set of > patches. That's true. > The biggest inconvenience has been the change of certain functions to > macros. It would be nice(r) not to have to rebytecompile dependent > packages like TM and Mailcrypt with each gnus change. Yup. However, there are sometime quite a lot to be gained by turning some key functions into macros, so I won't refrain from doing any such conversions in the future, if I think it's necessary... It would be nice to have an "elisp-make" function that would build dependency trees and make sure `require'd files were compiled before dependent files... -- "Yes. The journey through the human heart would have to wait until some other time." ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 21+ messages in thread
* Re: September Gnus 0.31 is released 1996-01-25 16:12 September Gnus 0.31 is released Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen 1996-01-25 18:36 ` Steven L Baur @ 1996-01-25 23:54 ` srivasta 1996-01-26 19:33 ` Mark Borges 1 sibling, 1 reply; 21+ messages in thread From: srivasta @ 1996-01-25 23:54 UTC (permalink / raw) Hi, I finally implemented a real mirror of <URL:ftp://ftp.ifi.uio.no/pub/emacs/gnus/>, so now my site should always have the latest version within 24 hours, connectivity permitting. I'll continue to grab the patches over by hand. Since I am now a real mirror, and I believe mentioned in the FAQ, I'll stop taking up bandwidth on this mailing list with these annoncements. Now also at: <URL: ftp://ftp.pilgrim.umass.edu/pub/misc/ding/> <URL: http://www.pilgrim.umass.edu/pub/misc/ding/> <URL: gopher://gopher.pilgrim.umass.edu/11/pub/misc/ding/> Currently on tap: total 2926 8 ./ 8 refcard/ 8 ../ 8 s-manual/ 74 .mirror 7 sgnus-0.25-0.26.diff.gz 0 FAQ@ 208 sgnus-0.26-0.27.diff.gz 6 dgnus-5.0.12-5.0.13.diff.gz 21 sgnus-0.27-0.28.diff.gz 40 etc-0.4.tar.gz 3 sgnus-0.28-0.29.diff.gz 0 etc.tar.gz@ 23 sgnus-0.29-0.30.diff.gz 8 faq/ 48 sgnus-0.30-0.31.diff.gz 416 gnus-5.0.13.tar.gz 520 sgnus-0.31.tar.gz 0 gnus.tar.gz@ 0 sgnus.tar.gz@ 1336 icons.tar.gz 176 tm7.41.tar.gz 8 manual/ ding/faq: total 349 8 ./ 23 gnus-faq 280 gnus-faq.ps 8 ../ 30 gnus-faq.html ding/manual: total 400 8 ./ 2 gnus_10.html 5 gnus_2.html 6 gnus_7.html 8 ../ 2 gnus_11.html 18 gnus_3.html 11 gnus_8.html 2 .cache 26 gnus_12.html 74 gnus_4.html 6 gnus_9.html 4 .cache+ 46 gnus_13.html 128 gnus_5.html 10 gnus_toc.html 17 gnus_1.html 17 gnus_14.html 10 gnus_6.html ding/refcard: total 291 8 ./ 32 bk-a4-s1.ps.gz 20 gnusref.tar.gz 8 ../ 26 bk-a4-s2.ps.gz 21 quickref.ps.gz 1 .cache 40 bk-lt-d.ps.gz 34 refcard.ps.gz 3 README 32 bk-lt-s1.ps.gz 40 bk-a4-d.ps.gz 26 bk-lt-s2.ps.gz ding/s-manual: total 582 8 ./ 2 gnus_12.html 23 gnus_3.html 37 gnus_8.html 8 ../ 56 gnus_13.html 112 gnus_4.html 27 gnus_9.html 17 gnus_1.html 64 gnus_14.html 160 gnus_5.html 13 gnus_toc.html 6 gnus_10.html 21 gnus_15.html 12 gnus_6.html 3 gnus_11.html 5 gnus_2.html 8 gnus_7.html manoj -- There ain't nothin' in this world that's worth being a snot over. --Larry Wall in <1992Aug19.041614.6963@netlabs.com> %% Manoj Srivastava Systems Research Programmer, Project Pilgrim, Phone: (413) 545-3918 A143B Lederle Graduate Research Center, Fax: (413) 545-1249 University of Massachusetts, Amherst, MA 01003 <srivasta@pilgrim.umass.edu> <URL:http://www.pilgrim.umass.edu/%7Esrivasta/> ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 21+ messages in thread
* Re: September Gnus 0.31 is released 1996-01-25 23:54 ` srivasta @ 1996-01-26 19:33 ` Mark Borges 1996-01-26 20:28 ` Steven L Baur ` (3 more replies) 0 siblings, 4 replies; 21+ messages in thread From: Mark Borges @ 1996-01-26 19:33 UTC (permalink / raw) Cc: ding >> On Thu, 25 Jan 1996 18:54:14 -0500 (EST), >> srivasta (s) wrote: s> Hi, s> I finally implemented a real mirror of s> <URL:ftp://ftp.ifi.uio.no/pub/emacs/gnus/>, so now my site should s> always have the latest version within 24 hours, connectivity s> permitting. I'll continue to grab the patches over by hand. s> Since I am now a real mirror, and I believe mentioned in the s> FAQ, I'll stop taking up bandwidth on this mailing list with these s> annoncements. s> Now also at: s> <URL: ftp://ftp.pilgrim.umass.edu/pub/misc/ding/> s> <URL: http://www.pilgrim.umass.edu/pub/misc/ding/> s> <URL: gopher://gopher.pilgrim.umass.edu/11/pub/misc/ding/> This is a relatively minor point, but none of the above URL's listed in the article do not get button-ified by sgnus-0.32. But curiously, the URL in the original release announcement from Lars, (i.e., the line with "Get it from ...") does turn into a button automatically. However, the URL in the signature block does get turn into a clickable button automatically. I tried washing the article via "W b", but it had no effect. I know, it's not a big problem because one can always cut'n'paste, but I was just curious why it doesn't work. Does anyone else notice this, or is it just me? If it is a general problem, is something awry in browse-url.el? -mb- XEmacs-19.14-b6, sgnus-0.32 ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 21+ messages in thread
* Re: September Gnus 0.31 is released 1996-01-26 19:33 ` Mark Borges @ 1996-01-26 20:28 ` Steven L Baur 1996-01-26 20:29 ` Manoj Srivastava ` (2 subsequent siblings) 3 siblings, 0 replies; 21+ messages in thread From: Steven L Baur @ 1996-01-26 20:28 UTC (permalink / raw) (Cut & Pasted from the original article for reference). <URL: ftp://ftp.pilgrim.umass.edu/pub/misc/ding/> <URL: http://www.pilgrim.umass.edu/pub/misc/ding/> <URL: gopher://gopher.pilgrim.umass.edu/11/pub/misc/ding/> >>>>> "mb" == Mark Borges <mdb@cdc.noaa.gov> writes: s> <URL: ftp://ftp.pilgrim.umass.edu/pub/misc/ding/> s> <URL: http://www.pilgrim.umass.edu/pub/misc/ding/> s> <URL: gopher://gopher.pilgrim.umass.edu/11/pub/misc/ding/> mb> This is a relatively minor point, but none of the above URL's listed mb> in the article do not get button-ified by sgnus-0.32. But curiously, mb> the URL in the original release announcement from Lars, (i.e., the mb> line with "Get it from ...") does turn into a button mb> automatically. I was wondering what you meant since it worked for me, then I turned off tm-view. So it affects 19.13 too. (The following comment applies when tm-view is enabled). What I find odd is that in the original article, the URLs work and only have the method highlighted (the <URL: > container is not highlighted. In Mark's followup, the container is highlighted as well and the URL does not work. XEmacs 19.13, Sgnus v0.32, TM 7.41.2. -- steve@miranova.com baur Unsolicited commercial e-mail will be proofread for $250/hour. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 21+ messages in thread
* Re: September Gnus 0.31 is released 1996-01-26 19:33 ` Mark Borges 1996-01-26 20:28 ` Steven L Baur @ 1996-01-26 20:29 ` Manoj Srivastava 1996-01-26 20:39 ` Colin Rafferty 1996-01-26 20:50 ` Mark Borges 3 siblings, 0 replies; 21+ messages in thread From: Manoj Srivastava @ 1996-01-26 20:29 UTC (permalink / raw) Cc: ding Hi, Maybe it has to do with the space I inserted in the URL's under extreme coercion by barney: <URL: http://www.pilgrim.umass.edu/pub/misc/ding/> as opposed to: <URL:http://www.pilgrim.umass.edu/pub/misc/ding/> manoj >>Mark Borges writes: >> On Thu, 25 Jan 1996 18:54:14 -0500 (EST), >> srivasta (s) wrote: s> Now also at: s> <URL: ftp://ftp.pilgrim.umass.edu/pub/misc/ding/> s> <URL: http://www.pilgrim.umass.edu/pub/misc/ding/> s> <URL: gopher://gopher.pilgrim.umass.edu/11/pub/misc/ding/> mb> This is a relatively minor point, but none of the above URL's listed mb> in the article do not get button-ified by sgnus-0.32. But curiously, mb> the URL in the original release announcement from Lars, (i.e., the mb> line with "Get it from ...") does turn into a button mb> automatically. mb> However, the URL in the signature block does get turn into a clickable mb> button automatically. mb> I tried washing the article via "W b", but it had no effect. mb> I know, it's not a big problem because one can always cut'n'paste, but mb> I was just curious why it doesn't work. mb> Does anyone else notice this, or is it just me? If it is a general mb> problem, is something awry in browse-url.el? mb> -mb- mb> XEmacs-19.14-b6, sgnus-0.32 -- If you've seen one city slum, you've seen them all. -- Spiro Agnew %% Manoj Srivastava Systems Research Programmer, Project Pilgrim, Phone: (413) 545-3918 A143B Lederle Graduate Research Center, Fax: (413) 545-1249 University of Massachusetts, Amherst, MA 01003 <srivasta@pilgrim.umass.edu> <URL:http://www.pilgrim.umass.edu/%7Esrivasta/> ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 21+ messages in thread
* Re: September Gnus 0.31 is released 1996-01-26 19:33 ` Mark Borges 1996-01-26 20:28 ` Steven L Baur 1996-01-26 20:29 ` Manoj Srivastava @ 1996-01-26 20:39 ` Colin Rafferty 1996-01-26 20:50 ` Mark Borges 3 siblings, 0 replies; 21+ messages in thread From: Colin Rafferty @ 1996-01-26 20:39 UTC (permalink / raw) Cc: Mark Borges Mark Borges writes: >>> srivasta (s) wrote: s> Now also at: s> <URL: ftp://ftp.pilgrim.umass.edu/pub/misc/ding/> s> <URL: http://www.pilgrim.umass.edu/pub/misc/ding/> s> <URL: gopher://gopher.pilgrim.umass.edu/11/pub/misc/ding/> > This is a relatively minor point, but none of the above URL's listed > in the article do not get button-ified by sgnus-0.32. > XEmacs-19.14-b6, sgnus-0.32 All the buttons are fine for me (XEmacs-19.13, Gnus v5.0.13). -- Colin ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 21+ messages in thread
* Re: September Gnus 0.31 is released 1996-01-26 19:33 ` Mark Borges ` (2 preceding siblings ...) 1996-01-26 20:39 ` Colin Rafferty @ 1996-01-26 20:50 ` Mark Borges 1996-01-26 23:17 ` Steven L Baur 3 siblings, 1 reply; 21+ messages in thread From: Mark Borges @ 1996-01-26 20:50 UTC (permalink / raw) Weird. *All* the URL's in *all* the followups to Manoj's original article (#6899) -- mine(#6927), Manoj's(#6927) and Steve's(#6928) have been turned into buttons. The original article (#6899) has no buttons, except for those in the signature block. Even the ones with a space after a URL, e.g., both <URL: ftp://ftp.pilgrim.umass.edu/pub/misc/ding/> and <URL:ftp://ftp.pilgrim.umass.edu/pub/misc/ding/> work, so that apparently wasn't the problem. So what is so unique about the original #6899? -mb- ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 21+ messages in thread
* Re: September Gnus 0.31 is released 1996-01-26 20:50 ` Mark Borges @ 1996-01-26 23:17 ` Steven L Baur 0 siblings, 0 replies; 21+ messages in thread From: Steven L Baur @ 1996-01-26 23:17 UTC (permalink / raw) This article should not buttonize either, as in Manoj's original. >>>>> "mb" == Mark Borges <mdb@cdc.noaa.gov> writes: mb> Weird. mb> *All* the URL's in *all* the followups to Manoj's original article mb> (#6899) -- mine(#6927), Manoj's(#6927) and Steve's(#6928) have been mb> turned into buttons. The original article (#6899) has no buttons, mb> except for those in the signature block. mb> Even the ones with a space after a URL, e.g., both mb> <URL: ftp://ftp.pilgrim.umass.edu/pub/misc/ding/> mb> and mb> <URL:ftp://ftp.pilgrim.umass.edu/pub/misc/ding/> mb> work, so that apparently wasn't the problem. mb> So what is so unique about the original #6899? The .signature. Unhide the original .signature and you will find a quote from Larry Wall attributed in a fashion typically expected at the top of an article. I traced it with the debugger, and basically Gnus is testing each of the entries in gnus-button-alist, without resetting point to the beginning of the article. The goose is cooked on an original article (no citation at the top), and a citation in the .signature -- only the remainder of the .signature gets buttonized. Naturally anyone running Gnus 5 will not see this, since Gnus 5 uses only a single regexp, not an alist and the problem cannot arise in that case. Here's the fix: =================================================================== RCS file: RCS/ChangeLog,v retrieving revision 1.31 diff -u -r1.31 ChangeLog --- ChangeLog 1996/01/26 16:12:09 1.31 +++ ChangeLog 1996/01/26 23:10:45 @@ -1,3 +1,8 @@ +Fri Jan 26 15:10:09 1996 Steven L. Baur <steve@miranova.com> + + * gnus-vis.el (gnus-article-add-buttons): Need to reset point to top + of article before trying the next regexp in the gnus-button-alist. + Fri Jan 26 07:47:59 1996 Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen <larsi@eistla.ifi.uio.no> * gnus.el (gnus): Goto the first unread group. =================================================================== RCS file: RCS/gnus-vis.el,v retrieving revision 1.12 diff -u -r1.12 gnus-vis.el --- gnus-vis.el 1996/01/26 16:12:09 1.12 +++ gnus-vis.el 1996/01/26 23:09:17 @@ -1397,6 +1397,7 @@ (setq beg (point)) (while (setq entry (pop alist)) (setq regexp (car entry)) + (goto-char beg) (while (re-search-forward regexp nil t) (let* ((start (and entry (match-beginning (nth 1 entry)))) (end (and entry (match-end (nth 1 entry)))) -- steve@miranova.com baur Unsolicited commercial e-mail will be proofread for $250/hour. In article <ThisIsAGnusBug12345@miranova.com> somebody wrote: ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 21+ messages in thread
end of thread, other threads:[~1996-01-30 16:29 UTC | newest] Thread overview: 21+ messages (download: mbox.gz / follow: Atom feed) -- links below jump to the message on this page -- 1996-01-25 16:12 September Gnus 0.31 is released Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen 1996-01-25 18:36 ` Steven L Baur 1996-01-25 21:50 ` Wes Hardaker 1996-01-25 22:44 ` luis fernandes 1996-01-26 1:07 ` Steven L Baur 1996-01-26 15:28 ` Colin Rafferty 1996-01-26 17:47 ` Wes Hardaker 1996-01-26 17:48 ` Steven L Baur 1996-01-27 20:33 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen 1996-01-26 16:46 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen 1996-01-26 17:37 ` Steven L Baur 1996-01-27 20:33 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen 1996-01-28 0:13 ` Steven L Baur 1996-01-30 16:29 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen 1996-01-25 23:54 ` srivasta 1996-01-26 19:33 ` Mark Borges 1996-01-26 20:28 ` Steven L Baur 1996-01-26 20:29 ` Manoj Srivastava 1996-01-26 20:39 ` Colin Rafferty 1996-01-26 20:50 ` Mark Borges 1996-01-26 23:17 ` Steven L Baur
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