Weird sorting

Weird sorting

[Lance A. Brown]

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Hi,

Every once in a while Gnus (as shipped with GNU Emacs 19.34b) sorts
the summary buffer weirdly as shown below.  Note the two lines with
the subject 'Re: Monotheism vs Polytheism in Paganism' appear to be
sorted badly out of order.  From their scores they should be near the
bottom of the buffer, not stuck in with the zero-scored articles.
This occurs ONLY with articles that have 'Re:" on the front of them
and happens in almost all groups at least occasionally.

Has anyone else seen this?  It has been happening to me for a long
time now and has finally reached my irritation threshold.

--[Lance]

...
    10[  20:Kate Orman         ] Re: Overpopulation and Paganism (was Save the Planet, Kill Yourself
    10[  21:Oscar Pederson     ] Re: you're both missing point
R    0[  30:Nick Upson         ] "Pagan Priest not Guilty"
     0[  30:<tribe@primenet.com] Circle seeking Pagans From SE MI/NW OH/SW ON/NE IN
     0[  40:Macushla           ] Re: Death and Ritual Mysteries/was Women's Mysteries
     0[  20:Jennifer M Olson   ] Fasting for Health and Spirituality
     0[  44:Haezl              ] Re: Help! Fairies and Elder Trees
     0[  19:S. E. Stansfield   ] Re: Hi I am new to paganism will some one help me please
     0[  24:Vanessa Meachen    ] Re: Holidays
     0[   9:Heidi S. Trauger   ] Nick Upson
Y -110[  32:aptower@netcom.com ] Re: Monotheism vs Polytheism in Paganism
Y -120  <  36:David Dotson       > 
     0[  30:Joshua Bardwell    ] Pascal's Argument shows up again (was something else)
     0[  24:Zanetta Markham    ] Samhain info for kids
     0[  29:Chris Carlisle     ] St. Louis Pagans--want to help?
    -8[  18:Anthony R Giegler  ] Re: Definitions Ad Nauseum
   -10  <  29:Lew Stead          > 
   -10  <  38:Mariposa           > 
...


Here is the relevant info from invoking gnus-bug.

------------------ Environment follows ------------------

(setq gnus-default-nntp-server "")
(setq gnus-message-archive-group
      '((if
            (message-news-p)
            "nnmh:outbox.news" "nnmh:outbox")))
(setq gnus-secondary-select-methods
      '((nnmh ""
              (nnmh-directory "~/Mail/")
              (nnmh-get-new-mail nil)
              (nnmh-be-safe t))))
(setq gnus-secondary-servers
      '("news.niehs.nih.gov" "nih-csl.dcrt.nih.gov" "iecc.com"))
(setq gnus-init-file "~/el/lab-sgnus")
(setq gnus-group-faq-directory
      '("/ftp@ftp.seas.gwu.edu:/pub/rtfm/" "/ftp@mirrors.aol.com:/pub/rtfm/usenet/" "/ftp@sunsite.auc.dk:/pub/usenet/" "/ftp@sunsite.doc.ic.ac.uk:/pub/usenet/news-faqs/" "/ftp@src.doc.ic.ac.uk:/usenet/news-FAQS/" "/ftp@rtfm.mit.edu:/pub/usenet/" "/ftp@ftp.uni-paderborn.de:/pub/FAQ/" "/ftp@ftp.sunet.se:/pub/usenet/" "/ftp@nctuccca.edu.tw:/USENET/FAQ/" "/ftp@hwarang.postech.ac.kr:/pub/usenet/" "/ftp@ftp.hk.super.net:/mirror/faqs/"))
(setq gnus-dribble-directory "/usr/people/labrown/News")
(setq gnus-asynchronous t)
(setq gnus-default-article-saver
      'gnus-summary-save-in-folder)
(setq gnus-use-adaptive-scoring t)
(setq gnus-use-cache t)
(setq gnus-use-nocem t)
(setq gnus-novice-user nil)
(setq gnus-verbose 10)
(setq gnus-summary-thread-gathering-function
      'gnus-gather-threads-by-references)
(setq gnus-kill-killed nil)
(setq gnus-summary-zcore-fuzz 20)
(setq gnus-decode-encoded-word-method #[nil "À‡" [nil] 1])
(setq gnus-thread-indent-level 2)
(setq gnus-auto-select-first nil)
(setq gnus-auto-select-next
      'quietly)
(setq gnus-subscribe-options-newsgroup-method
      'gnus-subscribe-zombies)
(setq gnus-summary-line-format "%U%R%4,4i%I%(%[%4L:%-19,19n%]%) %s\n")
(setq gnus-summary-mode-line-format "Gnus: %%b %Z ")
(setq gnus-article-mode-line-format "Gnus: %%b %-28,28S ")
(setq gnus-group-mode-line-format "Gnus: %%b {%M:%S} ")
(setq gnus-thread-sort-functions
      '(gnus-thread-sort-by-number gnus-thread-sort-by-subject gnus-thread-sort-by-score))
(setq gnus-thread-score-function
      'max)
(setq gnus-auto-subscribed-groups nil)
(setq gnus-summary-mode-hook
      '(mc-install-read-mode))
(setq gnus-summary-prepare-exit-hook
      '(gnus-summary-expire-articles))
(setq gnus-startup-hook
      '(#[nil "ÀÁÂ\"ˆÀÁÃ\"ˆÄ\x15ÀÆÂ\"‡" [remove-hook gnus-summary-prepare-hook hilit-rehighlight-buffer-quietly hilit-install-line-hooks
              (gnus-summary-mark-read-and-unread-as-read)
              gnus-mark-article-hook gnus-article-prepare-hook] 3]))
(setq gnus-article-prepare-hook
      '(bbdb/gnus-update-record gnus-article-date-local))
(setq gnus-parse-headers-hook
      '(gnus-decode-rfc1522))
(setq gnus-save-newsrc-hook
      '(bbdb-offer-save))
(setq gnus-score-interactive-default-score 10)
(setq gnus-default-adaptive-score-alist
      '((gnus-kill-file-mark)
        (gnus-unread-mark)
        (gnus-read-mark
         (from 2)
         (subject 10))
        (gnus-catchup-mark
         (subject -10))
        (gnus-killed-mark
         (from -2)
         (subject -20))
        (gnus-expirable-mark
         (from -2)
         (subject -15))
        (gnus-del-mark
         (from -2)
         (subject -15))))
(setq message-from-style
      'parens)
(setq message-autosave-directory "~/News/Drafts")
(setq message-post-method
      '(nnspool ""))
(setq message-generate-headers-first t)
(setq message-mode-hook
      '(bbdb-insinuate-message))
(setq message-header-setup-hook
      '(gnus-inews-insert-archive-gcc gnus-inews-insert-gcc))
(setq message-cite-function
      'sc-cite-original)

Re: Weird sorting

[Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen]

"Lance A. Brown" <labrown@splat.niehs.nih.gov> writes:

> Every once in a while Gnus (as shipped with GNU Emacs 19.34b) sorts
> the summary buffer weirdly as shown below.  Note the two lines with
> the subject 'Re: Monotheism vs Polytheism in Paganism' appear to be
> sorted badly out of order.  From their scores they should be near the
> bottom of the buffer, not stuck in with the zero-scored articles.
> This occurs ONLY with articles that have 'Re:" on the front of them
> and happens in almost all groups at least occasionally.

Do you use fetch-old or sparse threading?

-- 
(domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.)
  larsi@ifi.uio.no * Lars Ingebrigtsen

Re: Weird sorting

[Lance A. Brown]

Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen <larsi@ifi.uio.no> writes:

> Do you use fetch-old or sparse threading?

Nope.  Would these help?

I'd really like to figure out why these articles don't get sorted
where they belong.

--[Lance]

Re: Weird sorting

[Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen]

"Lance A. Brown" <labrown@splat.niehs.nih.gov> writes:

> Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen <larsi@ifi.uio.no> writes:
> 
> > Do you use fetch-old or sparse threading?
> 
> Nope.  Would these help?

No, but they have been known to cause problems...  Uhm...  What's your
`gnus-thread-ignore-subject'?

-- 
(domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.)
  larsi@ifi.uio.no * Lars Ingebrigtsen

Re: Weird sorting

[Lance A. Brown]

Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen <larsi@ifi.uio.no> writes:

>> Nope.  Would these help?

> No, but they have been known to cause problems...  Uhm...  What's your
> `gnus-thread-ignore-subject'?

Nil.

Lance