Startup problem with X-less emacs

Startup problem with X-less emacs

[Steve Baumgarten]

Just grabbed sgnus-0.40 and tried running it under an emacs 19.29 that
was linked without X support.  The result?  A near-immediate complaint
about the lack of menu-bar-mode at startup.

For what it's worth, this hassn't been a problem with non-September
Gnus 5.0.13.  Short of convincing the folks at panix to bring up a new
emacs with X support linked in (which, since we can only run it via
telnet or dialup connections, would only server to bloat the image
size), I have to stick with 5.0.13.

Steve Baumgarten
sbb@panix.com

Re: Startup problem with X-less emacs

[Steven L Baur]

>>>>> "Steve" == Steve Baumgarten <sbb@panix.com> writes:

Steve> Just grabbed sgnus-0.40 and tried running it under an emacs 19.29 that
Steve> was linked without X support.  The result?  A near-immediate complaint
Steve> about the lack of menu-bar-mode at startup.

What happens if you add
(setq menu-bar-mode nil)
to your .gnus.el or .emacs?

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Re: Startup problem with X-less emacs

[Steve Baumgarten]

Steven L. Baur writes:

   What happens if you add
   (setq menu-bar-mode nil)
   to your .gnus.el or .emacs?
   
This works perfectly -- thanks for the tip.  Probably should have
thought of that myself...

Steve Baumgarten
sbb@panix.com

Re: Startup problem with X-less emacs

[William Perry]

Steve Baumgarten writes:
> Steven L. Baur writes:
> 
>    What happens if you add
>    (setq menu-bar-mode nil)
>    to your .gnus.el or .emacs?
>    
> This works perfectly -- thanks for the tip.  Probably should have
> thought of that myself...

  Users should not have to do stuff like this in order for a package to
work.

-Bill P.

Re: Startup problem with X-less emacs

[Steven L Baur]

>>>>> "William" == William Perry <wmperry@monolith.spry.com> writes:

William> Steve Baumgarten writes:
>> Steven L. Baur writes:
>> 
>> What happens if you add
>> (setq menu-bar-mode nil)
>> to your .gnus.el or .emacs?
>> 
>> This works perfectly -- thanks for the tip.  Probably should have
>> thought of that myself...

William> Users should not have to do stuff like this in order for a
William> package to work.

Correct.  This variable needs to be initialized properly in Gnus.
What is menu-bar-mode anyway?  It's misnamed -- a symbol with that name
should be a function which sets the major mode of a buffer.

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Re: Startup problem with X-less emacs

[Paul D. Smith]

%% Regarding Re: Startup problem with X-less emacs;
%% Steven L Baur <steve@miranova.com> writes:

    >>> What happens if you add
    >>> (setq menu-bar-mode nil)
    >>> to your .gnus.el or .emacs?

    William> Users should not have to do stuff like this in order for a
    William> package to work.

    slb> Correct.  This variable needs to be initialized properly in
    slb> Gnus.

As of Emacs 19.30 there's a menu bar in the TTY (non-windows) Emacs as
well, so it's not necessary to change the setting of that variable.  The
menu bar stuff will (OK, should; I haven't tried it personally :) work
fine in non-windows Emacs 19.30 and above.

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Re: Startup problem with X-less emacs

[Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen]

Steve Baumgarten <sbb@panix.com> writes:

> Just grabbed sgnus-0.40 and tried running it under an emacs 19.29 that
> was linked without X support.  The result?  A near-immediate complaint
> about the lack of menu-bar-mode at startup.

The problem isn't with the X support per se.  September Gnus simply
does not work on any Emacsen prior to Emacs 19.30/XEmacs 19.13.

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