From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/40210 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Benjamin Rutt Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: header-sensitive beginning-of-line? Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2001 13:12:46 -0500 Sender: owner-ding@hpc.uh.edu Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: coloc-standby.netfonds.no Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1035175795 32098 80.91.224.250 (21 Oct 2002 04:49:55 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2002 04:49:55 +0000 (UTC) Return-Path: Original-Received: (qmail 19737 invoked from network); 11 Nov 2001 18:13:38 -0000 Original-Received: from malifon.math.uh.edu (129.7.128.13) by mastaler.com with SMTP; 11 Nov 2001 18:13:38 -0000 Original-Received: from sina.hpc.uh.edu ([129.7.128.10] ident=lists) by malifon.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 162z6j-0006IR-00; Sun, 11 Nov 2001 12:13:25 -0600 Original-Received: by sina.hpc.uh.edu (TLB v0.09a (1.20 tibbs 1996/10/09 22:03:07)); Sun, 11 Nov 2001 12:13:08 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: from sclp3.sclp.com (qmailr@sclp3.sclp.com [209.196.61.66]) by sina.hpc.uh.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id MAA14059 for ; Sun, 11 Nov 2001 12:12:56 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: (qmail 19730 invoked by alias); 11 Nov 2001 18:12:51 -0000 Original-Received: (qmail 19725 invoked from network); 11 Nov 2001 18:12:51 -0000 Original-Received: from mail.cis.ohio-state.edu (HELO cis.ohio-state.edu) (root@164.107.115.5) by gnus.org with SMTP; 11 Nov 2001 18:12:51 -0000 Original-Received: from eta.cis.ohio-state.edu (rutt@eta.cis.ohio-state.edu [164.107.112.62]) by cis.ohio-state.edu (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAA13763 for ; Sun, 11 Nov 2001 13:12:47 -0500 (EST) Original-Received: (from rutt@localhost) by eta.cis.ohio-state.edu (8.9.1/8.9.1) id NAA09284; Sun, 11 Nov 2001 13:12:47 -0500 (EST) X-Authentication-Warning: eta.cis.ohio-state.edu: rutt set sender to rutt@cis.ohio-state.edu using -f Original-Sender: Benjamin Rutt Original-To: ding@gnus.org X-Face: (&zE&hBC"G~kYNV6dt5#[X'%{!h5@/oUyc`CRNn#d6e2qi%~4N.?_ys_bQ3&7.* (Karl Eichwalder's message of "Sun, 11 Nov 2001 10:17:31 +0100") Original-Lines: 28 User-Agent: Gnus/5.090004 (Oort Gnus v0.04) Emacs/21.1 (sparc-sun-solaris2.6) Precedence: list X-Majordomo: 1.94.jlt7 Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:40210 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:40210 Karl Eichwalder writes: > Kai.Grossjohann@CS.Uni-Dortmund.DE (Kai Gro=DFjohann) writes: > >> On the Emacs-devel mailing list, something similar (but for shell >> mode) was discussed. Maybe it is a good idea to make shell-mode and >> message-mode behave the same in this respect? > > Thought about that, too, but the matters are disjunct. There are cases > when you want to delete the whole line in message mode (at the moment > this works best pressing `C-a C-k C-k'), but no brave soul has the need > to delete the promt in shell mode. > > Please, don't change the default in message mode. The default has already been changed in Oort CVS. (FYI, two successive C-a's should get you to BOL if the first one didn't). I know that I personally delete header values much more often than I delete entire headers. So for me, the new key binding saves me keystrokes. However, for others, this may not be true. Perhaps we need a variable which allows users to customize whether message-bol takes them to the beginning of line or beginning of header? I think we have reached a point where it should be left to the user to decide this. --=20 Benjamin