From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/46033 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Mark Thomas Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: problem with gnus-no-server Date: Tue, 06 Aug 2002 12:22:14 -0400 Sender: owner-ding@hpc.uh.edu Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: localhost.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1028650837 24244 127.0.0.1 (6 Aug 2002 16:20:37 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 6 Aug 2002 16:20:37 +0000 (UTC) Return-path: Original-Received: from malifon.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.13]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 17c74U-0006Ip-00 for ; Tue, 06 Aug 2002 18:20:34 +0200 Original-Received: from sina.hpc.uh.edu ([129.7.128.10] ident=lists) by malifon.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 17c74T-0003aG-00; Tue, 06 Aug 2002 11:20:33 -0500 Original-Received: by sina.hpc.uh.edu (TLB v0.09a (1.20 tibbs 1996/10/09 22:03:07)); Tue, 06 Aug 2002 11:21:00 -0500 (CDT) Original-Received: from sclp3.sclp.com (qmailr@sclp3.sclp.com [209.196.61.66]) by sina.hpc.uh.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id LAA23047 for ; Tue, 6 Aug 2002 11:20:46 -0500 (CDT) Original-Received: (qmail 18875 invoked by alias); 6 Aug 2002 16:20:12 -0000 Original-Received: (qmail 18870 invoked from network); 6 Aug 2002 16:20:12 -0000 Original-Received: from cmu-32888.wv.cc.cmu.edu (HELO svelte.home) (128.2.70.97) by gnus.org with SMTP; 6 Aug 2002 16:20:12 -0000 Original-Received: by svelte.home (Postfix, from userid 4642) id 262221B98B; Tue, 6 Aug 2002 12:22:14 -0400 (EDT) Original-To: ding@gnus.org Original-Lines: 117 User-Agent: Gnus/5.090007 (Oort Gnus v0.07) XEmacs/21.1 (Cuyahoga Valley, i686-pc-linux) Precedence: list X-Majordomo: 1.94.jlt7 Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:46033 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:46033 This morning, I added news.gmane.org to my gnus-secondary-select-methods, so that I have: (setq gnus-select-method '(nnml "") gnus-secondary-select-methods '((nntp "news.bellatlantic.net") (nntp "news.gmane.org") (nntp "cmu" (nntp-address "localhost") (nntp-port-number 10119)))) That worked fine, and I was able to add and read groups. These new gmane groups I put on level 4. I quit gnus. I can restart gnus with M-x gnus just fine. However when I try to start gnus-no-server with M-x gnus-no-server I get an error. The backtrace is: Signaling: (error "Trying to require a method that doesn't exist") signal(error ("Trying to require a method that doesn't exist")) cerror("Trying to require a method that doesn't exist") apply(cerror "Trying to require a method that doesn't exist") error("Trying to require a method that doesn't exist") gnus-server-opened((nil "")) gnus-activate-group("maillist.debian.laptop" scan) gnus-get-unread-articles(2) gnus-setup-news(nil 2 t) byte-code("..." [dont-connect did-connect gnus-group-quit gnus-run-hooks gnus-startup-hook gnus-make-newsrc-file gnus-startup-file gnus-current-startup-file gnus-slave gnus-use-dribble-file gnus-dribble-read-file gnus-use-grouplens bbb-login add-hook gnus-summary-mode-hook gnus-grouplens-mode gnus-setup-news nil level gnus-setup-news-hook gnus-start-draft-setup gnus-group-list-groups gnus-group-first-unread-group gnus-configure-windows group gnus-group-set-mode-line gnus-started-hook] 4) gnus-1(2 t nil) gnus(2 t nil) gnus-no-server-1(nil nil) gnus-no-server(nil) call-interactively(gnus-no-server) command-execute(gnus-no-server t) execute-extended-command(nil) call-interactively(execute-extended-command) If I look in ~/.newsrc.eld, I see that the maillist.debian.laptop group is the first nnml group: (setq gnus-newsrc-alist '(("nntp+news.gmane.org:gmane.linux.debian.user.security.announce" 4 ((1 . 22)) ((seen (1 . 22))) (nntp "news.gmane.org")) ..... ("nntp+news.gmane.org:gmane.emacs.xemacs.announce" 4 ((1 . 5)) ((seen (1 . 5))) (nntp "news.gmane.org")) ("maillist.debian.laptop" 2 ((1 . 6080)) ((dormant (1 . 3) (4376 . 4379)) (expire 3364 3374 (3761 . 3762) (3765 . 3766) 3911 4473 (5189 . 5190) 5280 5283 5437 5474 5587 5589 5657 5713 (5723 . 5724) (5728 . 5729) 5942 6001 6012) (reply 1 4377 4381) (tick 230 754 1380 (2093 . 2094) 3735 4014 4781 (4787 . 4788) 5467 5529 5968) (seen (1 . 6080)) (cache 1380)) "nnml:" ((total-expire . t) (expiry-wait . 28) (to-list . "debian-laptop@lists.debian.org") (subscribed . t))) ("maillist.debian.security-announce" 2 ((1 . 113)) ((dormant (1 . 3) (83 . 86)) (expire 25) (reply 1 84) (seen (1 . 3) (65 . 113))) "nnml:" ((total-expire . t) (expiry-wait . 28) (subscribed . t))) .... The ~/.newsrc.eld file originally had "nntp:news.gmane.org" Once I encountered this bug, I change that to (nntp "news.gmane.org") in order to match the entries I have for (nntp "news.bellatlantic.net") and (nntp "cmu") That didn't do anything to fix the problem. What's up, and how do I debug it? Thanks, -Mark