From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/21228 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Steinar Bang Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: a big .newsrc.eld is *fragile* Date: 16 Feb 1999 15:00:14 +0100 Sender: owner-ding@hpc.uh.edu Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: coloc-standby.netfonds.no Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1035159373 21937 80.91.224.250 (21 Oct 2002 00:16:13 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2002 00:16:13 +0000 (UTC) Return-Path: Original-Received: from spinoza.math.uh.edu (spinoza.math.uh.edu [129.7.128.18]) by sclp3.sclp.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA02880 for ; Tue, 16 Feb 1999 09:01:35 -0500 (EST) Original-Received: from sina.hpc.uh.edu (lists@Sina.HPC.UH.EDU [129.7.3.5]) by spinoza.math.uh.edu (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id IAB19759; Tue, 16 Feb 1999 08:00:50 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: by sina.hpc.uh.edu (TLB v0.09a (1.20 tibbs 1996/10/09 22:03:07)); Tue, 16 Feb 1999 08:00:54 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: from sclp3.sclp.com (root@sclp3.sclp.com [204.252.123.139]) by sina.hpc.uh.edu (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id IAA05406 for ; Tue, 16 Feb 1999 08:00:46 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: from viffer.oslo.metis.no (sb@viffer.oslo.metis.no [195.0.254.249]) by sclp3.sclp.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA02862 for ; Tue, 16 Feb 1999 09:00:38 -0500 (EST) Original-Received: (from sb@localhost) by viffer.oslo.metis.no (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA19786; Tue, 16 Feb 1999 15:00:14 +0100 Original-To: ding@gnus.org Original-Lines: 16 User-Agent: Gnus/5.070065 (Pterodactyl Gnus v0.65) XEmacs/20.4 (Emerald) Precedence: list X-Majordomo: 1.94.jlt7 Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:21228 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:21228 This point comes up from time to time: a big .newsrc.eld holding a lot of the status information of Gnus is *fragile*. It's fragile because we risk losing a *lot* of _mostly_ _static_ information, if the .newsrc.eld is corrupted Right now I had XEmacs crash under me (probably because I exhausted the virtual memory) and this caused me to have a .newsrc.eld file of size 0 bytes. Luckily I have a crontab job copying this file to a machine that takes real backups. Less luckily this crontab job hasn't been running since I updated my system from RedHat 5.0 to S.u.S.E. 5.3 on january 8...:-( One thing is the tickmarks that has disappeared. Far worse is the group information that may have gone away.