5.2.14 Problems with MH mail groups on

5.2.14 Problems with MH mail groups on

[Steinar Bang]

Platform: GNU Emacs 19.31, Sparc Solaris 2.5, Gnus 5.2.14

Gnus don't show new articles in MH folders.  When I get new articles,
the number of unread articles, in the "Group" folder is correct.  But
when I try opening the group, there are no new articles there.

Opening the directory as an MH folder, using mh-e, verifies that the
articles are indeed there.

Unsubscribing to the mail group, and then resubscribing doesn't change
this.  I had this behaviour on 5.2.6, and then upgraded to 5.2.14,
with the same results.

Re: 5.2.14 Problems with MH mail groups on

[Steinar Bang]

>>>>> Steinar Bang <sb@metis.no>:

> Platform: GNU Emacs 19.31, Sparc Solaris 2.5, Gnus 5.2.14
> Gnus don't show new articles in MH folders.  When I get new articles,
> the number of unread articles, in the "Group" folder is correct.  But
> when I try opening the group, there are no new articles there.

> Opening the directory as an MH folder, using mh-e, verifies that the
> articles are indeed there.

> Unsubscribing to the mail group, and then resubscribing doesn't change
> this.  I had this behaviour on 5.2.6, and then upgraded to 5.2.14,
> with the same results.

What I've done now, is manually clean out everything concerning the MH
mail groups from the .newsrc.eld file, and *then* resubscribing.
There was a lot of cruft left over, on the old unsubscribed groups.
They now seem to be working again.

Is this expected behaviour,... or is it a bug? ;-)

The groups were created in Gnus 5.1. 

Re: 5.2.14 Problems with MH mail groups on

[Steinar Bang]

>>>>> Steinar Bang <sb@metis.no>:
>> Platform: GNU Emacs 19.31, Sparc Solaris 2.5, Gnus 5.2.14
>> Gnus don't show new articles in MH folders.  When I get new articles,
>> the number of unread articles, in the "Group" folder is correct.  But
>> when I try opening the group, there are no new articles there.

> What I've done now, is manually clean out everything concerning the
> MH mail groups from the .newsrc.eld file, and *then* resubscribing.
> There was a lot of cruft left over, on the old unsubscribed groups.
> They now seem to be working again.

Nope.  The problem is still there.  Right now the "ding" group
announced 3 new messages.  But all I've found, when I opened the
group, was one.

Opening the folder with mh-e, gave me 3 new messages, among them the
one I'm responding to (which didn't show up in Gnus).

Re: 5.2.14 Problems with MH mail groups on

[Per Abrahamsen]

Does the bug only happen when:

1) the folder is located on NFS

2) the folder is large (1000+ messages)

then perhaps you have found the NFS related bug that I and other have
reported.

Re: 5.2.14 Problems with MH mail groups on

[Steinar Bang]

>>>>> Per Abrahamsen <abraham@dina.kvl.dk>:

> Does the bug only happen when:

> 1) the folder is located on NFS

Nope.  Local disk.

> 2) the folder is large (1000+ messages)

Nope.  The largest I have is some 360 messages.

> then perhaps you have found the NFS related bug that I and other
> have reported.

I *think* it was caused by a corrupted .newsrc.eld file.  Since I had
to change my NNTPSERVER anyways, I took the chore of starting with a
fresh .newsrc.eld

It now seems to work OK (but since I erronously reported that once,
alreay I'll wait a bit before saying so ;-).

Re: 5.2.14 Problems with MH mail groups on

[Steinar Bang]

>>>>> Steinar Bang <sb@metis.no>:

> It now seems to work OK (but since I erronously reported that once,
> alreay I'll wait a bit before saying so ;-).

Yes.  It was premature.  It works OK when I first enter a new group.
If I'm not mistaken, it also worked OK the second time.  But when I
attempted updating the group, after having posted a new article, it
wasn't there (even though the article *is* in the MH folder)

Re: 5.2.14 Problems with MH mail groups on

[Steinar Bang]

>>>>> Steinar Bang <sb@metis.no>:
>> It now seems to work OK (but since I erronously reported that once,
>> alreay I'll wait a bit before saying so ;-).

> Yes.  It was premature.  It works OK when I first enter a new group.
> If I'm not mistaken, it also worked OK the second time.  But when I
> attempted updating the group, after having posted a new article, it
> wasn't there (even though the article *is* in the MH folder)

When I start Gnus for the first time in an emacs, it works OK (ie. it
finds new articles in MH mail groups).  

When I update the "Groups" buffer, that particular group with M-g, or
"Redisplay" inside a group, it can't find the new articles.

This also occurs, when I restart Gnus in an emacs process.

Re: 5.2.14 Problems with MH mail groups on

[Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen]

Steinar Bang <sb@metis.no> writes:

> Gnus don't show new articles in MH folders.  When I get new articles,
> the number of unread articles, in the "Group" folder is correct.  But
> when I try opening the group, there are no new articles there.

This sounds like a problem in `nnmh-retrieve-headers'.  What does the
" *nntpd*" buffer (note leading space) look like after entering a
group?

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