From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/17429 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Steinar Bang Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: pgnus and GNU emacs 20.3 and XEmacs 20.4 and byte-compile Date: 27 Sep 1998 15:20:00 +0200 Sender: owner-ding@hpc.uh.edu Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: coloc-standby.netfonds.no Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.108) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1035156131 887 80.91.224.250 (20 Oct 2002 23:22:11 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 20 Oct 2002 23:22:11 +0000 (UTC) Return-Path: Original-Received: from gizmo.hpc.uh.edu (gizmo.hpc.uh.edu [129.7.102.31]) by sclp3.sclp.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA23057 for ; Sun, 27 Sep 1998 09:21:53 -0400 (EDT) Original-Received: from sina.hpc.uh.edu (sina.hpc.uh.edu [129.7.3.5]) by gizmo.hpc.uh.edu (8.7.6/8.7.3) with ESMTP id HAF19222; Sun, 27 Sep 1998 07:51:30 -0500 Original-Received: by sina.hpc.uh.edu (TLB v0.09a (1.20 tibbs 1996/10/09 22:03:07)); Sun, 27 Sep 1998 08:20:21 -0500 (CDT) Original-Received: from sclp3.sclp.com (root@sclp3.sclp.com [209.195.19.139]) by sina.hpc.uh.edu (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id IAA28081 for ; Sun, 27 Sep 1998 08:20:13 -0500 (CDT) Original-Received: from viffer.oslo.metis.no (viffer.oslo.metis.no [195.0.254.249]) by sclp3.sclp.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA23040 for ; Sun, 27 Sep 1998 09:20:03 -0400 (EDT) Original-Received: (from sb@localhost) by viffer.oslo.metis.no (8.8.7/8.8.7) id PAA25246; Sun, 27 Sep 1998 15:20:01 +0200 Original-To: ding@gnus.org In-Reply-To: Alan Shutko's message of "26 Sep 1998 11:30:11 -0500" Original-Lines: 42 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.6.42/XEmacs 20.4 - "Emerald" Precedence: list X-Majordomo: 1.94.jlt7 Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:17429 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:17429 >>>>> Alan Shutko : >>>>> "H" == Hrvoje Niksic writes: H> If the question is not personal, I'd like to know why? I could H> imagine that you would do the reverse (FSF for Gnus, XEmacs for the H> rest) because of the speed difference, but if XEmacs is good enough H> for Gnus, why not run it for the rest of your editing tasks? > My guess would be that he likes inline images, but for whatever > reason, doesn't like the rest of XEmacs. "Doesn't like" is a bit strong, but my reasoning is somewhat in this direction, yes. For me it was more than the inline images. It was the fact that the TM MIME support didn't work at all, for 20.2 MBSK. > For me, the large numbers of differences between Emacs and XEmacs > annoy the hell out of me and I find my blood pressure increasing way > too much... I know Emacs very well, and would have to spend so much > time learning the changes in XEmacs that it's not worth it for me. > It's not that XEmacs has any major flaws, but just billions of > little differences. Quite so. Most annoying for me (where I make the most mistakes), is: - marking for cut'n paste (it may be able to make XEmacs behave like GNU Emacs here, but I've never figured it out) - the kill ring doesn't seem to be activated after all yanks - The bookmarks menus are in "Edit" and not in "Search" - the iso-accents minor mode has a different behavior that results in "e" and "n" characters being left after a C-e or a C-n in the wrong place, that I then have to move back to to delete ... Nothing wrong exactly, but enough differences for me to be uncomfortable in XEmacs. But I'm more interested in making the byte code run on both emacsen... does anybody know...? :-)