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>>>>> Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org>:

> Steinar Bang <sb@metis.no> writes:
>> It's fragile because we risk losing a *lot* of _mostly_ _static_
>> information, if the .newsrc.eld is corrupted 

> That's true.  But doesn't Emacs create backup files when you save it?
> Or have you switched that off?

I switched that off in 1993 (because of a problem with PC-NFS that
kept a reference to the inode of the old version of a file, ie. edits
from emacs never showed up on Windoze/DOS) and I rather liked that
behaviour so I stuck with it, even after PC-NFS stopped being an
issue. 

Is it possible to turn that on for just ~/.newsrc.eld these days?