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From: Steinar Bang <sb@metis.no>
Subject: Re: Mule-begot problems
Date: 07 Jan 1998 08:56:05 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <whg1n0g1ka.fsf@norne.oslo.metis.no> (raw)
In-Reply-To: Stainless Steel Rat's message of "06 Jan 1998 15:16:32 -0500"

>>>>> Stainless Steel Rat <ratinox@peorth.gweep.net>:

>>>>> "FP" == Fabrice Popineau <popineau@esemetz.ese-metz.fr> writes:

FP> Why should 8bits data be encoded in 7bits if the right Mime headers are
FP> stated ?

> Because the MIME specifications say it should, because there are a lot of
> MTAs out there that are not "8-bit clean".

> Can you say "legacy system"?

> That is why all of the RFC 822 extensions that address 8-bit data specify
> that it should be encoded into a 7-bit format before transmission.

Actually, I've been using this technique since I first started using
MIME in 1993, ie. mark text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 as 8bit, and let
the MTA and the recipient worry about the rest.

The reason? Our (ie. the Norwegian email community's) legacy at that
time, was to use ISO8859-1 characters and just-send-8.  If I started
using q-p (or base64 for that matter) on plain text with Norwegian
characters, my correctly marked up article was perceived as broken.

Today I currently have MTAs that does the breaking for me, unless the
MTA they're talking to speaks ESMTP and understands 8BITMIME.  What
happens after the first MTA, I don't worry about.


- Steinar


  parent reply	other threads:[~1998-01-07  7:56 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 10+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
1998-01-06 20:12 Fabrice.Popineau
     [not found] ` <x7d8i55pen.fsf@peorth.gweep.net>
1998-01-06 23:36   ` Jason L Tibbitts III
     [not found]     ` <x7d8i5tber.fsf@peorth.gweep.net>
1998-01-07  2:07       ` Russ Allbery
     [not found]         ` <x7zpl93paa.fsf@peorth.gweep.net>
1998-01-07  4:12           ` Russ Allbery
1998-01-07  5:14           ` Richard Coleman
1998-01-07  7:56   ` Steinar Bang [this message]
1998-01-07 11:03   ` Kai Grossjohann
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
1998-01-06 10:32 Jon Babcock
1998-01-06 13:28 ` Tore Olsen
1998-01-06 18:26   ` Jon Babcock

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