pgnus-0.69 ... really ?

pgnus-0.69 ... really ?

[Didier Verna]

	Did somebody manage to get pgnus-0.69 ? I only seem to be able to
retreive 0.66 everywhere I looked.
	
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Re: pgnus-0.69 ... really ?

[Norbert Koch]

Didier Verna <verna@inf.enst.fr> writes:

> 	Did somebody manage to get pgnus-0.69 ? I only seem to be able to
> retreive 0.66 everywhere I looked.

Uhm, yes. At least it tells me so :-)

Re: pgnus-0.69 ... really ?

[Didier Verna]

Norbert Koch writes:

lykos> Uhm, yes. At least it tells me so :-)

wget http://www.gnus.org/pgnus.tar.gz gives me a distribution prefixed with
pgnus-0.66/. It can't find any pgnus.tar.gz on quimby. :-/

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Re: pgnus-0.69 ... really ?

[Norbert Koch]

Didier Verna <verna@inf.enst.fr> writes:

> Norbert Koch writes:
> 
> lykos> Uhm, yes. At least it tells me so :-)
> 
> wget http://www.gnus.org/pgnus.tar.gz gives me a distribution prefixed with
> pgnus-0.66/. It can't find any pgnus.tar.gz on quimby. :-/

Ah, then maybe Lars has a problem with his links. I only patched up my 
system

<URL:ftp://quimby.gnus.org/pub/gnus/ding-patches/pgnus-0.68-0.69.diff.gz>.

On quimby, you have to use

<URL:ftp://quimby.gnus.org/pub/gnus/pgnus.tar.gz>

But it's slow as hell for me, I've just checked.

Hth, norbert.

Re: pgnus-0.69 ... really ?

[Didier Verna]

Norbert Koch writes:

lykos> On quimby, you have to use

lykos> <URL:ftp://quimby.gnus.org/pub/gnus/pgnus.tar.gz>

	All right. I've found it but it's indeed rather slow.

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Re: pgnus-0.69 ... really ?

[Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen]

Didier Verna <verna@inf.enst.fr> writes:

> 	All right. I've found it but it's indeed rather slow.

It is?  Hm.  I get quite nice speeds from Quimby and to, well,
anywhere.  Does ping or traceroute say anything interesting?

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Re: pgnus-0.69 ... really ?

[Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen]

Norbert Koch <n.koch@delta-ii.de> writes:

> But it's slow as hell for me, I've just checked.

I seem to have forgotten all my passwords for accounts in the big,
wide world, but internally in Norway I get 120KB/s when ftp-ing from
ifi (which is on uninett) to Quimby (which is on eunet)...

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Re: pgnus-0.69 ... really ?

[Didier Verna]

Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen writes:

Lars> It is? Hm. I get quite nice speeds from Quimby and to, well, anywhere. 
Lars> Does ping or traceroute say anything interesting?

	Yes .... but it's not your fault. Look by yourself:

traceroute to quimby.gnus.org (195.1.89.233), 30 hops max, 40 byte packets
 1  toutatis-c201.enst.fr (137.194.204.18)  2.209 ms  1.014 ms *
 2  lulli-bbone.enst.fr (137.194.2.6)  4.402 ms  3.773 ms  3.719 ms
 3  gluck-fddi.enst.fr (137.194.4.1)  4.086 ms  5.628 ms  5.541 ms
 4  jolitorax.enst.fr (137.194.24.2)  14.148 ms  3.045 ms  6.013 ms
 5  195.83.239.178 (195.83.239.178)  16.123 ms  5.224 ms  5.972 ms
 6  danton2.rerif.ft.net (193.48.58.117)  17.326 ms  8.788 ms  8.315 ms
 7  danton2.rerif.ft.net (193.48.58.117)  8.928 ms  14.096 ms  11.096 ms
 8  stlambert2.rerif.ft.net (193.48.75.5)  15.810 ms  8.102 ms  9.305 ms
 9  stamand2.renater.ft.net (193.48.53.10)  21.994 ms  14.652 ms  11.241 ms
10  rbs2.renater.ft.net (195.220.180.34)  35.225 ms paii.renater.ft.net (195.220.180.29)  13.595 ms  24.658 ms
11  anet.paris.opentransit.net (193.55.152.186)  38.774 ms  23.607 ms *
12  198.67.133.81 (198.67.133.81)  88.098 ms  85.259 ms  101.615 ms
13  icm-bb11-pen-2-3.icp.net (198.67.133.73)  86.473 ms  100.144 ms  129.778 ms
14  icm-bb4-pen-4-0-0.icp.net (198.67.133.66)  114.957 ms  87.556 ms  109.964 ms
15  Pennsauken1.NJ.US.EU.net (192.157.69.75)  86.766 ms  98.633 ms  87.631 ms
16  Amsterdam2.NL.EU.net (134.222.228.33)  659.284 ms  460.084 ms  536.470 ms
17  Amsterdam5.NL.EU.net (134.222.187.5)  518.737 ms  550.927 ms  471.699 ms
18  Stockholm4.SE.EU.net (134.222.228.126)  465.594 ms  476.178 ms  443.260 ms
19  134.222.200.74 (134.222.200.74)  527.282 ms  550.385 ms  552.064 ms
20  195.139.5.20 (195.139.5.20)  640.618 ms  581.758 ms  602.841 ms
21  195.1.0.202 (195.1.0.202)  566.466 ms  778.177 ms  727.835 ms
22  eunet-gw.p4.no (193.71.0.122)  680.804 ms  651.013 ms  611.810 ms

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Re: pgnus-0.69 ... really ?

[Matti Saarinen]

Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen writes:
>Norbert Koch <n.koch@delta-ii.de> writes:
>
>> But it's slow as hell for me, I've just checked.
>
>I seem to have forgotten all my passwords for accounts in the big,
>wide world, but internally in Norway I get 120KB/s when ftp-ing from
>ifi (which is on uninett) to Quimby (which is on eunet)...

	From ifi to tut.fi (uninett -> nodunet -> funet): 200 kB/s
	From quimby to tut.fi (eunet -> nordunet -> funet): 59 kB/s
		
	Eunet seems to have slow connections from Norway to the big
	wide world.


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Re: pgnus-0.69 ... really ?

[Karl Kleinpaste]

Didier Verna <verna@inf.enst.fr> writes:
> 	Yes .... but it's not your fault. Look by yourself:
> traceroute to quimby.gnus.org (195.1.89.233), 30 hops max, 40 byte packets
...
> 15  Pennsauken1.NJ.US.EU.net (192.157.69.75)  86.766 ms  98.633 ms  87.631 ms

France<->Norway goes through ... *New Jersey*?!?

Wrong side of the pond, boys, wrong side of the pond...

Re: pgnus-0.69 ... really ?

[Hrvoje Niksic]

Karl Kleinpaste <karl@justresearch.com> writes:

> Didier Verna <verna@inf.enst.fr> writes:
> > 	Yes .... but it's not your fault. Look by yourself:
> > traceroute to quimby.gnus.org (195.1.89.233), 30 hops max, 40 byte packets
> ...
> > 15  Pennsauken1.NJ.US.EU.net (192.157.69.75)  86.766 ms  98.633 ms  87.631 ms
> 
> France<->Norway goes through ... *New Jersey*?!?

But of course.  There are stranger things than that -- for example, my 
connection to Europe is much slower than my connection to the US.
This means that if I want to download stuff from Europe at a
reasonable speed, I have to use a proxy in the *US*.

Re: pgnus-0.69 ... really ?

[Steinar Bang]

>>>>> Matti Saarinen <mjs@cc.tut.fi>:

> 	From ifi to tut.fi (uninett -> nodunet -> funet): 200 kB/s
> 	From quimby to tut.fi (eunet -> nordunet -> funet): 59 kB/s
		
> 	Eunet seems to have slow connections from Norway to the big
> 	wide world.

They don't have the fattest lines around... but NORDUNET always used
to have pretty fat lines compared to the rest of the net.  Dunno if
that's still the case today.

Traffic between ifi.uio.no and tut.fi travels on NORDUNET lines.