From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/67451 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Francis Litterio Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: Patch to message.el to allow saving multiple message buffers when Gnus not running Date: Thu, 25 Sep 2008 15:08:47 -0400 Message-ID: References: <86od2ppaqs.fsf@lifelogs.com> <871vzavita.fsf@marauder.physik.uni-ulm.de> <86iqsk9y1c.fsf@lifelogs.com> <87ljxgnowc.fsf@marauder.physik.uni-ulm.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1222370185 5324 80.91.229.12 (25 Sep 2008 19:16:25 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 25 Sep 2008 19:16:25 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Reiner Steib To: ding@gnus.org Original-X-From: ding-owner+M15901@lists.math.uh.edu Thu Sep 25 21:17:19 2008 connect(): Connection refused Return-path: Envelope-to: ding-account@gmane.org Original-Received: from util0.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.18]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1KiwJw-0003jE-46 for ding-account@gmane.org; Thu, 25 Sep 2008 21:16:12 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.math.uh.edu) by util0.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KiwI5-0002nc-EC; Thu, 25 Sep 2008 14:14:17 -0500 Original-Received: from mx2.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.33]) by util0.math.uh.edu with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KiwI3-0002nG-UE for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Thu, 25 Sep 2008 14:14:15 -0500 Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.231.51]) by mx2.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1KiwI0-0004Fb-Vk for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Thu, 25 Sep 2008 14:14:15 -0500 Original-Received: from pcls5.std.com ([192.74.137.145] helo=TheWorld.com) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1KiwI5-00009U-00 for ; Thu, 25 Sep 2008 21:14:17 +0200 Original-Received: from usenlittefl1c.theworld.com (root@shell01.theworld.com [192.74.137.71]) by TheWorld.com (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id m8PJDITZ016633; Thu, 25 Sep 2008 15:13:21 -0400 X-Random-Quote: Corporations have been enthroned, an era of corruption in high places will follow, and the money-power of the country will endeavor to prolong its reign by working upon the prejudices of the people until the wealth is aggregated in a few hands and the Republic is destroyed. -- Abraham Lincoln (1809 - 1865), quoted in Jack London's "The Iron Heel" In-Reply-To: <87ljxgnowc.fsf@marauder.physik.uni-ulm.de> (Reiner Steib's message of "Thu, 25 Sep 2008 18:58:27 +0200") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.0.60 (windows-nt) X-Spam-Score: -3.6 (---) List-ID: Precedence: bulk Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:67451 Archived-At: Reiner Steib wrote: > On Thu, Sep 25 2008, Ted Zlatanov wrote: > >> On Tue, 23 Sep 2008 Reiner Steib wrote: >> RS> On Mon, Sep 15 2008, Ted Zlatanov wrote: >>>> On Fri, 12 Sep 2008 Francis Litterio wrote: >> FL> This is at odds with how the same function saves multiple drafts of >> FL> outgoing messages in the drafts folder when Gnus has been started. The >> FL> below patch fixes this by changing message-set-auto-save-file to append >> FL> a unique timestamp to the name of the disk file for the message >> FL> composition buffer. >> >> RS> I'm not sure about the purpose of the current implementation. How is >> RS> the user supposed to recover the file(s) (without and with your >> RS> patch)? >> >> I think it simply provides a fallback in case of an emergency. That was my thinking. I considered saving different buffers to the same file to be a bug. I wasn't architecting some grand solution -- just trying to keep the user's on-disk copies of messages from being trashed. >> I don't >> really know what a user-side function to recover from those files would >> do. Open the files in message-mode? All of them? Then what? > > I never use message mode without Gnus (except for testing) so I'd like > to gather some information from users (like Francis maybe?) who do > this regularly. I use Message mode to compose both mail messages and news postings. It's simply that, if Gnus has not been started, Message mode has this bug. -- Fran