From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/32802 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Fabrice Gamberini Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: Supercite/Message woes Date: 06 Oct 2000 12:58:30 +0200 Sender: owner-ding@hpc.uh.edu Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: coloc-standby.netfonds.no Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1035169022 21783 80.91.224.250 (21 Oct 2002 02:57:02 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2002 02:57:02 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Fabrice Gamberini , ding@gnus.org Return-Path: Original-Received: from fisher.math.uh.edu (fisher.math.uh.edu [129.7.128.35]) by mailhost.sclp.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A858ED051E for ; Fri, 6 Oct 2000 07:03:29 -0400 (EDT) Original-Received: from sina.hpc.uh.edu (lists@Sina.HPC.UH.EDU [129.7.3.5]) by fisher.math.uh.edu (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id GAC02572; Fri, 6 Oct 2000 06:01:52 -0500 (CDT) Original-Received: by sina.hpc.uh.edu (TLB v0.09a (1.20 tibbs 1996/10/09 22:03:07)); Fri, 06 Oct 2000 06:01:17 -0500 (CDT) Original-Received: from mailhost.sclp.com (postfix@66-209.196.61.interliant.com [209.196.61.66] (may be forged)) by sina.hpc.uh.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id GAA28512 for ; Fri, 6 Oct 2000 06:01:05 -0500 (CDT) Original-Received: from amethiste.eunet.fr (amethiste.eunet.fr [193.107.210.28]) by mailhost.sclp.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D2AE1D051E for ; Fri, 6 Oct 2000 07:01:29 -0400 (EDT) Original-Received: from ([193.106.69.85]) by amethiste.eunet.fr with SMTP id NAA07305; Fri, 6 Oct 2000 13:18:38 +0200 (MET DST) Original-Received: from WMP-PCFGA [172.20.2.70] (HELO WMP-PCFGA.wavecom.fr) by wmp-pc40.wavecom.fr (AltaVista Mail V2.0/2.0 BL23 listener) id 0000_0048_39dd_bf1e_9c73; Fri, 06 Oct 2000 13:01:34 +0100 Original-To: Kai.Grossjohann@CS.Uni-Dortmund.DE (Kai =?iso-8859-1?q?Gro=DFjohann?=) In-Reply-To: Kai.Grossjohann@CS.Uni-Dortmund.DE's message of "06 Oct 2000 12:31:07 +0200" Original-Lines: 68 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0807 (Gnus v5.8.7) Emacs/20.7 Precedence: list X-Majordomo: 1.94.jlt7 Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:32802 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:32802 >>>>> "Kai" =3D=3D Kai Gro=DFjohann wr= ites: FGA>> problem description --snipped-- Kai> Hm. Hmmm... That's quite strange. I just did the following test= : I Kai> typed "xxx" at the beginning of a line, then hit `C-x .'. This set Kai> the fill-prefix to "xxx". Then I deleted the line and started typ= ing Kai> on a fresh line. And sure enough, when I reached the end of the l= ine Kai> and auto-fill kicked in, the second line began with "xxx". Did you try that with sc-auto-fill-region-p on ?? (I think it's C-c C-p C-t= f) Here the wrong-fill-prefix-problem seems to have disappeared after setting sc-auto-fill-region-p to nil. This comes from re-reading the SuperCite manual and experimenting with the stuff I didn't understand at first. Not t= hat I can claim to have a clear understanding of everything now, but at least it works. Plus it doesn't auto-cite on text _between_ cited paragraphs, which I think is a wrond thing to do, so it's actually better than what you describ= e, I don't have to backspace on bl**dy indented paragraphs anymore. Me Happy. Kai> When you turn on adaptive fill and fill-prefix is nil, then Emacs Kai> tries to figure out a fill prefix to use from the current buffer Kai> contents. In particular, it looks at the beginning of the current Kai> paragraph for a fill prefix to use. (Normally at the second line, Kai> but for single-line paragraphs, it also looks at the first line.) Kai> You can type `ESC {' and `ESC }' to go backward/forward a paragrap= h. Kai> This also tells you where Emacs thinks a paragraph starts. Kai> For me, blank lines delimit paragraphs, so when I type just below = a SC Kai> citation, the SC citation will be reused. Like so: Foo> This is an SC citation line. Foo> The SC citation must be at least two lines long. Kai> And here is what I type just below that citation. The next line w= ill Foo> inherit the fill prefix from the second line of this paragraph, Foo> and since this paragraph starts with two SC citation lines, the Foo> auto-filled lines also have SC citation prefixes. Kai> See? Yes, this doesn't seem quite right to me though, it gets confusing to read, isn't it ? The more I understand, the more I think this "feature" is A Bad Thing. (sc-auto-fill, I mean) Kai> Maybe this is what happens to you? Well, It might be something like this, but this happened in 2 _different_ messages, which was a source of extreme confusion and bafflement. All it to= ok was a single -documented though quite badly IMHO- variable to solve this misbehaviour. Kai> kai Kai> --=20 Kai> I like BOTH kinds of music. Thanks for looking this in. Fabrice --=20 Fabrice Gamb=E9rini -- =3D Wavecom S.A. =3D --=20 Email: fabrice.gamberini@wavecom.fr