Gnus-unplugged

Gnus-unplugged

[Harry Putnam]

Been running qgnus.0.22 for a while but only now got brave enough to try
the agent out.

Following directions in info, I have inserted the (gnus-agentize) phrase
in .gnus.

Attempting to start gnus I start emacs then M-x gnus-unplugged <RET>

but all I get is "no match"

It seems I must start gnus with M-x gnus <RET> give authinfo (haven't
tried the new setup on that yet) wait as usual to get the news etc.

Only then does M-x gnus-unplugged, seem to do anything.
The groups that had numbers (of unread) by them suddenly get '*'s by them,
accept  "nntp+sunsite.auc.dk:emacs.ding" which keep its number of unread
(maybe because it is set to level 4?)


That was the first session-- closed down tried again - same sequence.

So apparently you must get plugged before you can do anything else.
The directions say to "start gnus with 'gnus-unplugged'"

Go online to get offline?
Probably doing something wrong (or many things!)

Is the above description normal behaviour?


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Harry Putnam  reader@newsguy.com

Re: Gnus-unplugged

[Jake Colman]

>>>>> "HP" == Harry Putnam <reader@newsguy.com> writes:

    HP> Been running qgnus.0.22 for a while but only now got brave enough to
    HP> try the agent out.

Harry,

Sorry to butt in since I am also only fairly new to the qgnus cycle but it only
seems fair that if you are going to comment on a feature, especially with
regards to possible buggy behavior, that you use a fairly current version of
the software being tested.  Since Lars has just released 0.27, it would seem
that alot may have happened since your version of 0.22, no?

Just MHO.


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Re: Gnus-unplugged

[Robley Hall]

Harry Putnam <reader@newsguy.com> writes:

> Been running qgnus.0.22 for a while but only now got brave enough to try
> the agent out.
> 
> Following directions in info, I have inserted the (gnus-agentize) phrase
> in .gnus.
> 
> Attempting to start gnus I start emacs then M-x gnus-unplugged <RET>
> 
> but all I get is "no match"
> 
Harry,

add the following to your .emacs (not .gnus, you want it to happen
before you issue the gnus-unplugged)

(load-library '"gnus-agent")

or alternatively, issue 

M-x load-library RET gnus-agent RET 

before M-x gnus-unplugged RET

This worked for me.

Robley

Re: gnus-unplugged

[Harry Putnam]

Steinar Bang <sb@dod.no> writes:

>>>>>> Harry Putnam <reader@newsguy.com>:
>
>> When I call M-x gnus-unplugged, shouldn't I see `unplugged' in the
>> mode line?
>
> I do.  No Gnus v0.11 (CVS Update from December 17 2008) on GNU Emacs
> 22.3.1 (i386-mingw-nt6.0.6001) of 2008-09-06 on SOFT-MJASON.
>

Gack.. I may have lost my wits here a little.  This happened on a
vmware install of linux and emacs... not my regular workstation.  On the vmware
I don't have any servers agentized so nothing gets downloaded.  

I'm so used to running gnus on the main linux desktop I forgot where I was
at.... 

Re: gnus-unplugged

[Steinar Bang]

>>>>> Steinar Bang <sb@dod.no>:

>>>>> Harry Putnam <reader@newsguy.com>:
>> When I call M-x gnus-unplugged, shouldn't I see `unplugged' in the
>> mode line?

> I do. 

"I do see `unplugged' in the mode line when I start Gnus with `M-x
gnus-unplugged RET'", I meant to say.

> No Gnus v0.11 (CVS Update from December 17 2008) on GNU Emacs 22.3.1
> (i386-mingw-nt6.0.6001) of 2008-09-06 on SOFT-MJASON.

>> Further when I do M-x gnus-unplugged it appears to have the same
>> effect as gnus-group-get-new-news... is that normal? 

> No, I don't think so.  For me it doesn't get new news in this
> situation. 

>> It just seems wrong on the face of it.

> Indeed.

Re: gnus-unplugged

[Steinar Bang]

>>>>> Harry Putnam <reader@newsguy.com>:

> When I call M-x gnus-unplugged, shouldn't I see `unplugged' in the
> mode line?

I do.  No Gnus v0.11 (CVS Update from December 17 2008) on GNU Emacs
22.3.1 (i386-mingw-nt6.0.6001) of 2008-09-06 on SOFT-MJASON.

> Further when I do M-x gnus-unplugged it appears to have the same
> effect as gnus-group-get-new-news... is that normal? 

No, I don't think so.  For me it doesn't get new news in this
situation. 

> It just seems wrong on the face of it.

Indeed.

gnus-unplugged

[Harry Putnam]

When I call M-x gnus-unplugged, shouldn't I see `unplugged' in the
mode line?

Further when I do M-x gnus-unplugged it appears to have the same
effect as gnus-group-get-new-news... is that normal?  It just seems
wrong on the face of it.