From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/24558 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Jack Vinson Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: total-expiry Date: 31 Jul 1999 10:35:13 -0500 Sender: owner-ding@hpc.uh.edu Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: coloc-standby.netfonds.no Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1035162104 9373 80.91.224.250 (21 Oct 2002 01:01:44 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2002 01:01:44 +0000 (UTC) Return-Path: Original-Received: from farabi.math.uh.edu (farabi.math.uh.edu [129.7.128.57]) by sclp3.sclp.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA02636 for ; Fri, 30 Jul 1999 11:36:37 -0400 (EDT) Original-Received: from sina.hpc.uh.edu (lists@Sina.HPC.UH.EDU [129.7.3.5]) by farabi.math.uh.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAB08810; Fri, 30 Jul 1999 10:36:04 -0500 (CDT) Original-Received: by sina.hpc.uh.edu (TLB v0.09a (1.20 tibbs 1996/10/09 22:03:07)); Fri, 30 Jul 1999 10:36:54 -0500 (CDT) Original-Received: from sclp3.sclp.com (root@sclp3.sclp.com [204.252.123.139]) by sina.hpc.uh.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA26936 for ; Fri, 30 Jul 1999 10:36:44 -0500 (CDT) Original-Received: from gatekeeper4.monsanto.com (internet1-chi.monsanto.com [204.233.233.43]) by sclp3.sclp.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA02596 for ; Fri, 30 Jul 1999 11:35:31 -0400 (EDT) Original-Received: by gatekeeper4.monsanto.com; id KAA15097; Fri, 30 Jul 1999 10:35:27 -0500 (CDT) Original-Received: from unknown(137.35.49.139) by gatekeeper4.monsanto.com via smap (V4.2) id xma014104; Fri, 30 Jul 99 10:34:40 -0500 Original-To: ding@gnus.org X-Home-Page: http://www.cis.upenn.edu/~vinson X-Zippy: What UNIVERSE is this, please?? In-Reply-To: Shaun Lipscombe's message of "30 Jul 1999 09:45:34 +0100" Original-Lines: 28 User-Agent: Gnus/5.070095 (Pterodactyl Gnus v0.95) Emacs/20.4 Precedence: list X-Majordomo: 1.94.jlt7 Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:24558 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:24558 >>>>> "SL" == Shaun Lipscombe writes: SL> I have now decided to mark add to my group params, for mailing list SL> groups, total-expiry. After doing this, and then entering/leaving the SL> group I expected the expiry process to run. Do I need to mark all the SL> 'O'ld mail as 'R'ead instead. I though 'O' was a 'kind of' read SL> mark. I have tried doing gnus-summary-expire-articles-now but I SL> expect that this would only work for messages actually marked as SL> 'E'xpirable. I don't know what all the conventions are but 'O'ld mail does not get expired on my total-expiry groups either. I notice this when I enter groups with 'C-u g' and discover a bunch of 'O'ld messages that haven't been expired. Messages that are 'R'ead or 'E'xpirable will vanish at the appropriate time in total-expire groups. The manual isn't written completely clear on this matter. I also forgot that adaptive scoring and auto-expire conflict with each other. If one wants to use adapting, one should either use total-expire (which doesn't change article marks) or nothing. The problem is (and this isn't in the manual) that auto-expire changes the marks _before_ adaptive scoring peruses the articles to see what is interesting and what is not. -- Jack Vinson Zippy: Well, I'm on the right planet---everyone looks like me!!!