total-expiry

total-expiry

[Shaun Lipscombe]

I have now decided to mark add to my group params, for mailing list
groups, total-expiry.  After doing this, and then entering/leaving the
group I expected the expiry process to run.  Do I need to mark all the
'O'ld mail as 'R'ead instead.  I though 'O' was a 'kind of' read
mark.  I have tried doing gnus-summary-expire-articles-now but I
expect that this would only work for messages actually marked as
'E'xpirable.

Any help would be appreciated.

Thanks,

Shaun

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Re: total-expiry

[Kai Großjohann]

Shaun Lipscombe <shaun.lipscombe@gasops.co.uk> writes:

> I have now decided to mark add to my group params, for mailing list
> groups, total-expiry.  After doing this, and then entering/leaving the
> group I expected the expiry process to run.

Only if you haven't (remove-hook 'gnus-summary-prepare-exit-hook
'gnus-summary-expire-articles). 

kai
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Re: total-expiry

[Shaun Lipscombe]

No I haven't removed the hook.  Strange...

Shaun

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Re: total-expiry

[Jack Vinson]

>>>>> "SL" == Shaun Lipscombe <shaun.lipscombe@gasops.co.uk> writes:

SL> I have now decided to mark add to my group params, for mailing list
SL> groups, total-expiry.  After doing this, and then entering/leaving the
SL> group I expected the expiry process to run.  Do I need to mark all the
SL> 'O'ld mail as 'R'ead instead.  I though 'O' was a 'kind of' read
SL> mark.  I have tried doing gnus-summary-expire-articles-now but I
SL> expect that this would only work for messages actually marked as
SL> 'E'xpirable.

I don't know what all the conventions are but 'O'ld mail does not get
expired on my total-expiry groups either.  I notice this when I enter
groups with 'C-u g' and discover a bunch of 'O'ld messages that haven't
been expired.  

Messages that are 'R'ead or 'E'xpirable will vanish at the appropriate time
in total-expire groups.  The manual isn't written completely clear on this
matter.

I also forgot that adaptive scoring and auto-expire conflict with each
other.  If one wants to use adapting, one should either use total-expire
(which doesn't change article marks) or nothing.  The problem is (and this
isn't in the manual) that auto-expire changes the marks _before_ adaptive
scoring peruses the articles to see what is interesting and what is not.

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Re: total-expiry

[Robert Bihlmeyer]

Hi,

>>>>> On 31 Jul 1999 10:35:13 -0500
>>>>> Jack Vinson <vinson@unagi.cis.upenn.edu> said:

 Jack> I don't know what all the conventions are but 'O'ld mail does
 Jack> not get expired on my total-expiry groups either. I notice this
 Jack> when I enter groups with 'C-u g' and discover a bunch of 'O'ld
 Jack> messages that haven't been expired.

And they stay that way forever??

 Jack> Messages that are 'R'ead or 'E'xpirable will vanish at the
 Jack> appropriate time in total-expire groups.

Hmm, all `R'ead mail is marked `O'ld if I exit/reenter the group.
I think they are expired all right, since the article count does not
grow without bounds.

 Jack> The problem is (and this isn't in the manual) that
 Jack> auto-expire changes the marks _before_ adaptive scoring peruses
 Jack> the articles to see what is interesting and what is not.

But there is a paragraph to the effect that you should not mix
auto-expire and adaptive scoring in the "Expiring Mail" node.

        Robbe

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