mail-abbrev?

mail-abbrev?

[Ketil Z Malde]

Switching to sgnus-0.90, I get the message that mail-abbrev could not
be loaded.  Compiling gave me the same kind of messages about it not
existing.  What gives?

~kzm

Re: mail-abbrev?

[Jack Vinson]

>>>>> "KZM" == Ketil Z Malde <Ketil> writes:

KZM> Switching to sgnus-0.90, I get the message that mail-abbrev could not
KZM> be loaded.  Compiling gave me the same kind of messages about it not
KZM> existing.  What gives?

Someone goofed.  It's either mailabbrev.el, or mail-abbrevs.el.  I prefer
the latter, although I don't know if it is distributed with emacs.  (It's
another little thing written by JWZ.)

Jack

Re: mail-abbrev?

[Paul D. Smith]

%% Regarding Re: mail-abbrev?;
%% Jack Vinson <jvinson@cheux.ecs.umass.edu> writes:

    >>>>>> "KZM" == Ketil Z Malde <Ketil> writes: I get the message that
    KZM> mail-abbrev could not be loaded.

    jv> Someone goofed.  It's either mailabbrev.el, or mail-abbrevs.el.
    jv> I prefer the latter, although I don't know if it is distributed
    jv> with emacs.

No; Emacs 19 comes with mailabbrev.el only.  Same file, different name.
Sigh.

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Re: mail-abbrev?

[Mark Borges]

>> On Wed, 22 May 96 11:22:07 EDT,
>> Paul D Smith(PDS) wrote:
PDS> %% Regarding Re: mail-abbrev?;
PDS> %% Jack Vinson <jvinson@cheux.ecs.umass.edu> writes:

>>>>>>> "KZM" == Ketil Z Malde <Ketil> writes: I get the message that
KZM> mail-abbrev could not be loaded.

jv> Someone goofed.  It's either mailabbrev.el, or mail-abbrevs.el.
jv> I prefer the latter, although I don't know if it is distributed
jv> with emacs.

PDS> No; Emacs 19 comes with mailabbrev.el only.  Same file, different
PDS> name.  Sigh.

>> On 21 May 1996 17:04:34 +0000,
>> Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen(lars) wrote:
lars> Nope.  It was based on JWZ's code which is owned by Lucid, from
lars> which all paperwork has expired.

;;; mailabbrev.el --- abbrev-expansion of mail aliases.
;;; Copyright (C) 1985, 1986, 1987, 1992, 1993 Free Software Foundation, Inc.
;; Author: Jamie Zawinski <jwz@lucid.com>
;; Maintainer: Jamie Zawinski <jwz@lucid.com>
;; Created: 19 Oct 90
;; Keywords: mail

Doth mine eyes deceive me? Is that a jwz package in GNU Emacs 19.28?
Quick, somebody call a lawyer :-).

-- 
  -mb-

Re: mail-abbrev?

[Per Abrahamsen]

>>>>> "MB" == Mark Borges <mdb@cdc.noaa.gov> writes:

MB> Doth mine eyes deceive me? Is that a jwz package in GNU Emacs 19.28?
MB> Quick, somebody call a lawyer :-).

There is plenty of JWZ code in Emacs, all of it written in the period
where Lucid had signed papers.  There's no papers for the last period
of Lucid's existence, and whomever own the remains of Lucid don't want
to sign them.

Fixed! (was: mail-abbrev?)

[Ketil Z Malde]

I wrote:

> Switching to sgnus-0.90, I get the message that mail-abbrev could not
> be loaded.  Compiling gave me the same kind of messages about it not
> existing.  What gives?

I found out.  Or, at least, I made the problem go away by renaming the
require for 'mail-abbrev with a require for 'mail-abbrevs.  That's
abbrevS, with an S at the end.

Possibly a new name from Xemacs-19.14 (I use a beta version -- but so
does a lot of other people on the list, don't they?  Steve?)

However, now I feel that getting new articles take an insurmountably
long time - is it just my NFS/NNTP connection not being up to par, or is
there in fact a slowdown from 0.76?  Is there anything I can do in the
way of profiling or something to measure where the sluggishness stems
from?

Ah, one more thing - when citing an article that already contain cited
text, I often get something like this (the prepended tab not included):

	> >blah blah

	> gobble gobble

..but C-c C-q mangles the first one, due to, I think the spaces used.
Perhaps message-fill-yanked-message could be made more intelligent --
maybe using some heuristics used in the highlighting code?  Or is there
something I can do about it?

~kzm

Re: Fixed! (was: mail-abbrev?)

[Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen]

Ketil Z Malde <ketil@ii.uib.no> writes:

> I found out.  Or, at least, I made the problem go away by renaming the
> require for 'mail-abbrev with a require for 'mail-abbrevs.  That's
> abbrevS, with an S at the end.
> 
> Possibly a new name from Xemacs-19.14 (I use a beta version -- but so
> does a lot of other people on the list, don't they?  Steve?)

No, I just forgot the "s" at the end.

> However, now I feel that getting new articles take an insurmountably
> long time - is it just my NFS/NNTP connection not being up to par, or is
> there in fact a slowdown from 0.76?  Is there anything I can do in the
> way of profiling or something to measure where the sluggishness stems
> from?

`M-x elp-instrument-package RET gnus RET' will profile Gnus.  
`M-x elp-results' will give you the results.

> Ah, one more thing - when citing an article that already contain cited
> text, I often get something like this (the prepended tab not included):
> 
> 	> >blah blah
> 
> 	> gobble gobble
> 
> ..but C-c C-q mangles the first one, due to, I think the spaces used.
> Perhaps message-fill-yanked-message could be made more intelligent --
> maybe using some heuristics used in the highlighting code?

I often `W w' articles before following up to them, which solves the
problem, kinda.

-- 
(domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.)
  larsi@ifi.uio.no * Lars Ingebrigtsen

Re: Fixed! (was: mail-abbrev?)

[Steven L Baur]

>>>>> "Ketil" == Ketil Z Malde <ketil@ii.uib.no> writes:

Ketil> I wrote:

Ketil> Possibly a new name from Xemacs-19.14 (I use a beta version -- but so
Ketil> does a lot of other people on the list, don't they?  Steve?)

Gnus is well-represented in the group of XEmacs beta testers,
including our fearless leader.

Ketil> Ah, one more thing - when citing an article that already contain cited
Ketil> text, I often get something like this (the prepended tab not included):

>> >blah blah

>> gobble gobble

Ketil> ..but C-c C-q mangles the first one, due to, I think the spaces
Ketil> used.  Perhaps message-fill-yanked-message could be made more
Ketil> intelligent -- maybe using some heuristics used in the
Ketil> highlighting code?  Or is there something I can do about it?

Try using filladapt-mode.  Most of this code has been subsumed into
the normal text formatting code in Emacs 19.30 so you probably only
need it with XEmacs.

Here are the relevant settings I have in my initialization:
.emacs:
(require 'filladapt)
(setq filladapt-mode-line-string " FA")

.gnus:
(setq sc-auto-fill-region-p nil)
(add-hook 'message-mode-hook 'turn-on-filladapt-mode)
(add-hook 'message-mode-hook 'turn-on-auto-fill)


It does strange things when numbers begin a line though.
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