From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/46737 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: torkel@acc.umu.se (=?iso-8859-1?q?Bj=F6rn?= Torkelsson) Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: Offline mail and group cooperation Date: Wed, 25 Sep 2002 20:34:46 +0200 Sender: owner-ding@hpc.uh.edu Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: localhost.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-15 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1032979273 13438 127.0.0.1 (25 Sep 2002 18:41:13 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 25 Sep 2002 18:41:13 +0000 (UTC) Return-path: Original-Received: from malifon.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.13]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 17uH5z-0003UP-00 for ; Wed, 25 Sep 2002 20:41:11 +0200 Original-Received: from sina.hpc.uh.edu ([129.7.128.10] ident=lists) by malifon.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 17uH07-0006b5-00; Wed, 25 Sep 2002 13:35:07 -0500 Original-Received: by sina.hpc.uh.edu (TLB v0.09a (1.20 tibbs 1996/10/09 22:03:07)); Wed, 25 Sep 2002 13:35:47 -0500 (CDT) Original-Received: from sclp3.sclp.com (qmailr@sclp3.sclp.com [209.196.61.66]) by sina.hpc.uh.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id NAA14512 for ; Wed, 25 Sep 2002 13:35:34 -0500 (CDT) Original-Received: (qmail 11122 invoked by alias); 25 Sep 2002 18:34:48 -0000 Original-Received: (qmail 11117 invoked from network); 25 Sep 2002 18:34:48 -0000 Original-Received: from ratatosk.pdc.kth.se (193.10.159.41) by gnus.org with SMTP; 25 Sep 2002 18:34:48 -0000 X-Rcpt-To: X-Mail-From: torkel@pdc.kth.se X-Client: c-c07670d5.016-37-73746f7.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se (213.112.118.192) Original-Received: from modesty.pdc.kth.se (c-c07670d5.016-37-73746f7.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se [213.112.118.192]) (authenticated bits=0) by ratatosk.pdc.kth.se (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id g8PIYkuW168841 for ; Wed, 25 Sep 2002 20:34:47 +0200 (CEST) Original-To: ding@gnus.org X-Playing: Mail-Copies-To: never In-Reply-To: (Simon Josefsson's message of "Tue, 24 Sep 2002 13:33:21 +0200") Original-Lines: 43 User-Agent: Gnus/5.090008 (Oort Gnus v0.08) XEmacs/21.5 (brussels sprouts, i686-pc-linux) Precedence: list X-Majordomo: 1.94.jlt7 Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:46737 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:46737 Simon Josefsson writes: > grossjoh@lothlorien.cs.uni-dortmund.de (Kai Gro=DFjohann) writes: > >> I guess that nnimap and Gnus Agent is still one of the major >> alternatives. I remember that I tried it a long time ago and I was >> confused about which messages it wanted to download automatically. I >> guess that we want to download all messages (regardless of marks) in >> selected groups. Is this possible with the Agent?=20=20 > > Right now the Agent is hard coded to never download articles marked as > read in Gnus. I posted a (very lightly tested) patch to fix this long > time ago, but never committed it as it breaks backwards compatibility > (people that want the old behaviour had to add a `read' Agent > predicate to only download read articles, which was the old > behaviour). > > What you describe is how most other disconnected clients work, so I > think it would be nice to support it, but I'm not sure how. Is it > worth breaking backwards compatibility for this? Perhaps adding a > `unread' Agent predicate which you'd need to add to get this behaviour > could work. Isn't this what the cache is supposed to solve?=20 When I read a mail, it's entered into the cache. When I delete the mail (either when I mark it as expirable, or when it's expired) it is also deleted from the cache.=20 The only time I should have to manually download messages are when I want to download, new, unread mail, or when I for some reason have turned of the cache (in which case I should be able to specify which mail to donwload) That's at least my idea of how the agent/cache *should* work. Pehaps it should also be an option to download new messages into the cache when checking for new mail. All my rant probably on apply for nnimap. /torkel