procmail and Gnus 0.74 ?

procmail and Gnus 0.74 ?

[Jari Aalto]

    I noticed that newest gnus changed the way incoming mail is read.
    What's the right way now to read mail from procmail spool files
    in ~/Mail/spool? All files end to string ".spool".

    I tried this but, it doesn't seem to be the correct answer:

  (let* ((spool   (concat (file-name-as-directory nnfolder-directory)  
                          "spool"))
         (exist-p (file-directory-p spool))
         )

...zap...

      (setq mail-spool-file
            (list
             (list 'directory ':path   spool ':suffix ".spool")  ;; .prcml
             ;; "po:jaalto@mail.cs.tpu.fi"
             ;; "po:ssjaaa@pop.uta.fi"
             ;; (list 'pop ':server "mail.cs.tpu.fi" ':user "jaalto")
             )))

    jari

Re: procmail and Gnus 0.74 ?

[Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen]

Jari Aalto <jari.aalto@ntc.nokia.com> writes:

>       (setq mail-spool-file
>             (list
>              (list 'directory ':path   spool ':suffix ".spool")  ;; .prcml

Looks OK to me, although you don't have to quote keywords -- they are
self-quoting, like nil and t and lambda and stuff:

:path
=> :path

Anyway, the directory fetching probably works better in 0.75.

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Re: procmail and Gnus 0.74 ?

[Stephen Zander]

>>>>> "Lars" == Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org> writes:
    Lars> Anyway, the directory fetching probably works better in
    Lars> 0.75.

Actually, no.  I get no directory fetching at all with 0.75.  The
folloing is the pertinent part of my ~/.gnus.el

;;
;; Select method
;;
(setq gnus-select-method '(nnml "")
      gnus-large-newsgroup nil
      nnml-directory (concat gnus-directory "nnml/")
      ;nnmail-use-procmail t
      ;nnmail-spool-file 'procmail
      ;nnmail-procmail-directory (concat gnus-directory ".incoming/")
      mail-spool-file '((directory :path "~/News/.incoming/")))

Leaving the nnmail-* variables uncommented resulted in a backtrace
(which I can send if you want). From the manual I'd though the
mail-sppol-file spec above would have worked.

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Re: procmail and Gnus 0.74 ?

[Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen]

Stephen Zander <gibreel@pobox.com> writes:

> Leaving the nnmail-* variables uncommented resulted in a backtrace
> (which I can send if you want). From the manual I'd though the
> mail-sppol-file spec above would have worked.

That should be `nnmail-spool-file'.

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Re: procmail and Gnus 0.74 ?

[Jim Meyering]

Stephen Zander <gibreel@pobox.com> writes:

| >>>>> "Lars" == Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org> writes:
|     Lars> Anyway, the directory fetching probably works better in
|     Lars> 0.75.
|
| Actually, no.  I get no directory fetching at all with 0.75.  The
| folloing is the pertinent part of my ~/.gnus.el
|
| ;;
| ;; Select method
| ;;
| (setq gnus-select-method '(nnml "")
|       gnus-large-newsgroup nil
|       nnml-directory (concat gnus-directory "nnml/")
|       ;nnmail-use-procmail t
|       ;nnmail-spool-file 'procmail
|       ;nnmail-procmail-directory (concat gnus-directory ".incoming/")
|       mail-spool-file '((directory :path "~/News/.incoming/")))
|
| Leaving the nnmail-* variables uncommented resulted in a backtrace
| (which I can send if you want). From the manual I'd though the
| mail-sppol-file spec above would have worked.

Maybe that was because of these typos in the docs?
Here's a patch:

--- gnus.texi.~1~	Tue Feb  2 22:58:56 1999
+++ gnus.texi	Tue Feb  2 22:59:37 1999
@@ -10091,7 +10091,7 @@ If you want to fetch mail both from your
 mail server, you'd say something like:
 
 @lisp
-(setq mail-spool-file
+(setq nnmail-spool-file
       '((file)
         (pop :server "pop3.mail.server"
              :password "secret")))
@@ -10100,7 +10100,7 @@ mail server, you'd say something like:
 Or, if you don't want to use any of the keyword defaults:
 
 @lisp
-(setq mail-spool-file
+(setq nnmail-spool-file
       '((file :path "/var/spool/mail/user-name")
         (pop :server "pop3.mail.server"
              :user "user-name"

Re: procmail and Gnus 0.74 ?

[Scott Hofmann]

>>>>> "JA" == Jari Aalto <jari.aalto@ntc.nokia.com> writes:

 JA>     I noticed that newest gnus changed the way incoming mail is read.
 JA>     What's the right way now to read mail from procmail spool files
 JA>     in ~/Mail/spool? All files end to string ".spool".

 JA>     I tried this but, it doesn't seem to be the correct answer:

 JA>   (let* ((spool   (concat (file-name-as-directory nnfolder-directory)  
 JA>                           "spool"))
 JA>          (exist-p (file-directory-p spool))
 JA>          )

I'm using the following setup successfully with pgnus-0.75:

;; gnus customizations
(setq gnus-procmail-suffix ".spool"
      gnus-nntp-server nil;; required to use gnus-select-method
      gnus-select-method (list 'nntp "news.mindspring.com")
      gnus-secondary-select-methods '((nnml ""))
      gnus-uncacheable-groups "^nnml"
      )

;; this stuff should make us work with procmail nicely
(setq nnml-directory "/home/shofmann/Mail/spool"
      nnml-nov-is-evil t
      )

(setq nnmail-use-procmail t
      nnmail-spool-file '((directory :path "/home/shofmann/Mail/spool"
				     :suffix ".spool"))
      )

I hope this helps,

scott

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