* get new mail without new news
@ 1997-05-27 17:18 John Twilley
1997-05-27 18:39 ` David S. Goldberg
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From: John Twilley @ 1997-05-27 17:18 UTC (permalink / raw)
I'm trying out Gnus for news and mail, and came across something
frustrating that I didn't see in an admittedly cursory glance through
the documentation and source code.
I'm starting with 'nnfolder:mail.misc' and will eventually craft a
gnifty mail sorter-filter-percolater to toss mail in multiple groups.
My problem is this: occasionally I'll get a new mail message and want
to read it without checking all my newsgroups for new messages. Since
I'm currently using only one mail group, I 'j' to the group if it's
not on the screen already, then 'ESC g' to get only that group.
This only works until I start splitting my mail. What's the best way
to update only my mail and not my news?
Jack.
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* Re: get new mail without new news
1997-05-27 17:18 get new mail without new news John Twilley
@ 1997-05-27 18:39 ` David S. Goldberg
1997-05-27 19:09 ` John Twilley
1997-05-27 21:59 ` Mats Lidell
1997-05-27 18:46 ` Aaron Ucko
1997-05-27 22:34 ` Darren/Torin/Who Ever...
2 siblings, 2 replies; 9+ messages in thread
From: David S. Goldberg @ 1997-05-27 18:39 UTC (permalink / raw)
Cc: ding
> I'm trying out Gnus for news and mail, and came across something
> frustrating that I didn't see in an admittedly cursory glance
> through the documentation and source code.
Look a bit more closely, it's in there.
Set your mail group(s) to level 2 (news groups are level 3 by
default). Then do a `2 g' to fetch only the mail groups when you want
to pull in new mail.
For limiting to email, this is what I do: I run M-x gnus-no-server
instead of M-x gnus. This gives me a mail-only gnus. When I want to
read news I do a `3 g' and all my nntp groups get fetched (as well as
any new mail that might be in my spool files). Unfortunately there's
no way that I know of to only read news, but in general that's not
much of a problem. I could probably separate them in topic mode and
hide the mail groups, but I have other uses for topics. Anyway, when
I'm done with news, I do a `2 l' (note that's l, not g) and my gnus
session will only be for mail again (that is, typing g only fetches
from my mail spools).
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* Re: get new mail without new news
1997-05-27 17:18 get new mail without new news John Twilley
1997-05-27 18:39 ` David S. Goldberg
@ 1997-05-27 18:46 ` Aaron Ucko
1997-05-27 22:34 ` Darren/Torin/Who Ever...
2 siblings, 0 replies; 9+ messages in thread
From: Aaron Ucko @ 1997-05-27 18:46 UTC (permalink / raw)
Cc: ding
John Twilley <jmt@nda.nda.com> writes:
> My problem is this: occasionally I'll get a new mail message and want
> to read it without checking all my newsgroups for new messages. Since
> I'm currently using only one mail group, I 'j' to the group if it's
> not on the screen already, then 'ESC g' to get only that group.
>
> This only works until I start splitting my mail. What's the best way
> to update only my mail and not my news?
Put your mail groups on lower levels than your newsgroups (I use
levels 1 and 2 for mail and levels 3 and 4 for news) and then use
'N g' (replacing 'N' with the highest level you use for mail groups)
to get just mail. I believe this is in the FAQ and/or the manual, BTW.
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* Re: get new mail without new news
1997-05-27 18:39 ` David S. Goldberg
@ 1997-05-27 19:09 ` John Twilley
1997-05-28 8:13 ` Steinar Bang
1997-05-27 21:59 ` Mats Lidell
1 sibling, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread
From: John Twilley @ 1997-05-27 19:09 UTC (permalink / raw)
>>>>> "David" == David S Goldberg <dsg@linus.mitre.org> writes:
[re: reading new mail without checking for new news]
David> Look a bit more closely, it's in there.
Well, this part is in there, yes. I wasn't clear. :-)
David> Set your mail group(s) to level 2 (news groups are level 3
David> by default). Then do a `2 g' to fetch only the mail groups
David> when you want to pull in new mail.
How do you set a group's level? This is what wasn't clearly
documented, where 'clearly documented' is defined as 'what I can find
in a manual'. :-)
David> For limiting to email, this is what I do: I run M-x
David> gnus-no-server instead of M-x gnus. This gives me a
David> mail-only gnus. When I want to read news I do a `3 g' and
David> all my nntp groups get fetched (as well as any new mail
David> that might be in my spool files). Unfortunately there's no
David> way that I know of to only read news, but in general that's
David> not much of a problem. I could probably separate them in
David> topic mode and hide the mail groups, but I have other uses
David> for topics. Anyway, when I'm done with news, I do a `2 l'
David> (note that's l, not g) and my gnus session will only be for
David> mail again (that is, typing g only fetches from my mail
David> spools).
Cool trick -- once I learn how to set levels for groups!
Jack.
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jmt@nda.com | 800 West Cummings Park, Suite 2050 | Fax: (617) 937-3775
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* Re: get new mail without new news
1997-05-27 18:39 ` David S. Goldberg
1997-05-27 19:09 ` John Twilley
@ 1997-05-27 21:59 ` Mats Lidell
1 sibling, 0 replies; 9+ messages in thread
From: Mats Lidell @ 1997-05-27 21:59 UTC (permalink / raw)
>>>>> David wrote:
David> Unfortunately there's no way that I know of to only read news,
David> but in general that's not much of a problem.
Right. That is probably not a problem.
There is a somewhat related problem though with reading (old) mail
when you are offline. There should really be a (fast) way to just get
gnus going on your old mail without even trying to get new mail (nor
news).
%% Mats
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* Re: get new mail without new news
1997-05-27 17:18 get new mail without new news John Twilley
1997-05-27 18:39 ` David S. Goldberg
1997-05-27 18:46 ` Aaron Ucko
@ 1997-05-27 22:34 ` Darren/Torin/Who Ever...
1997-05-30 20:23 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2 siblings, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread
From: Darren/Torin/Who Ever... @ 1997-05-27 22:34 UTC (permalink / raw)
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John Twilley, in an immanent manifestation of deity, wrote:
>My problem is this: occasionally I'll get a new mail message and want
>to read it without checking all my newsgroups for new messages. Since
>[...]
>This only works until I start splitting my mail. What's the best way
>to update only my mail and not my news?
Just go into the server buffer (^ from the group buffer) and press s on
the nnfolder (or whatever) server. That will only update groups based
on that server..
On a related topic, I thought there was a way to just update the new
messages by topic but I don't see it anywhere. Am I just being
delusional?
Darren
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* Re: get new mail without new news
1997-05-27 19:09 ` John Twilley
@ 1997-05-28 8:13 ` Steinar Bang
1997-05-28 15:53 ` Daniel Simms
0 siblings, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread
From: Steinar Bang @ 1997-05-28 8:13 UTC (permalink / raw)
>>>>> John Twilley <jmt@nda.nda.com>:
>>>>> "David" == David S Goldberg <dsg@linus.mitre.org> writes:
David> Set your mail group(s) to level 2 (news groups are level 3
David> by default). Then do a `2 g' to fetch only the mail groups
David> when you want to pull in new mail.
> How do you set a group's level? This is what wasn't clearly
> documented, where 'clearly documented' is defined as 'what I can
> find in a manual'. :-)
In the *Group* buffer, position yourself over a group, and type
S l
or you can select the menu entry
Group -> Set group level (S l)
answer "1", or "2", and hit RETURN.
I *think* you can also use process marks on this setting (type #, when
standing on a group, and M-# to remove a mark). If so, all marked
groups will change the setting of their level.
But I've never tested this.
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* Re: get new mail without new news
1997-05-28 8:13 ` Steinar Bang
@ 1997-05-28 15:53 ` Daniel Simms
0 siblings, 0 replies; 9+ messages in thread
From: Daniel Simms @ 1997-05-28 15:53 UTC (permalink / raw)
>>>>> "SB" == Steinar Bang <sb@metis.no> writes:
SB> In the *Group* buffer, position yourself over a group, and type
SB> S l or you can select the menu entry Group -> Set group level (S
SB> l) answer "1", or "2", and hit RETURN.
You can also use a numeric prefix arg to S l. Linenumber mode can
help you figure out how many groups you need to change.
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* Re: get new mail without new news
1997-05-27 22:34 ` Darren/Torin/Who Ever...
@ 1997-05-30 20:23 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
0 siblings, 0 replies; 9+ messages in thread
From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen @ 1997-05-30 20:23 UTC (permalink / raw)
"Darren/Torin/Who Ever..." <torin@daft.com> writes:
> On a related topic, I thought there was a way to just update the new
> messages by topic but I don't see it anywhere.
`M-g' on the topic line.
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