From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/34305 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Gregory Chernov Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: gnus charset and non-mule xemacs problem Date: 17 Jan 2001 14:14:39 +0200 Sender: owner-ding@hpc.uh.edu Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: coloc-standby.netfonds.no Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1035170256 29734 80.91.224.250 (21 Oct 2002 03:17:36 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2002 03:17:36 +0000 (UTC) Return-Path: Original-Received: from karazm.math.uh.edu (karazm.math.uh.edu [129.7.128.1]) by mailhost.sclp.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D5597D049D for ; Wed, 17 Jan 2001 07:20:12 -0500 (EST) Original-Received: from sina.hpc.uh.edu (lists@Sina.HPC.UH.EDU [129.7.3.5]) by karazm.math.uh.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id GAC12017; Wed, 17 Jan 2001 06:16:37 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: by sina.hpc.uh.edu (TLB v0.09a (1.20 tibbs 1996/10/09 22:03:07)); Wed, 17 Jan 2001 06:15:58 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: from mailhost.sclp.com (postfix@66-209.196.61.interliant.com [209.196.61.66] (may be forged)) by sina.hpc.uh.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id GAA02855 for ; Wed, 17 Jan 2001 06:15:47 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: from dmz.visiontech-dml.com (dmz.visiontech-dml.com [199.203.103.41]) by mailhost.sclp.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CAEA9D049D for ; Wed, 17 Jan 2001 07:16:12 -0500 (EST) Original-Received: from VT-6.visiontech-dml.com (vtnet.visiontech-dml.com [199.203.103.50]) by dmz.visiontech-dml.com (8.10.1/8.10.1) with ESMTP id f0HCBqU07248 for ; Wed, 17 Jan 2001 14:11:54 +0200 (IST) Original-Received: (from greg@localhost) by VT-6.visiontech-dml.com (8.8.8+Sun/8.8.8) id OAA01312; Wed, 17 Jan 2001 14:14:39 +0200 (IST) X-Authentication-Warning: VT-6.visiontech.com: greg set sender to greg@visiontech-dml.com using -f Original-To: ding@gnus.org X-Face: $BQhkYA@P?4'\HC,3\g=qvp!^Q#Ivn.L_NF="Ls3/uaDsc0wFDL1JI)b{?xaGA(zhe`y-X^ }(/PF}^}m{.|4zv+u|%|{{^!6N-|^f2:SG#Tn0?I5@6xASR2oT User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) XEmacs/21.1 (Biscayne) Precedence: list X-Majordomo: 1.94.jlt7 Original-Lines: 47 Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:34305 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:34305 I'm using gnus with xemacs non-mule version. With 5.8.4 version of gnus I had no problem to control posting charsets. >>From my .gnus: (setq gnus-group-posting-charset-alist '(("^no\\." iso-8859-1 t) ("^relcom\\>" koi8-r t) ("^fido7\\>" koi8-r t) (message-is-mail koi8-r t) (".*" iso-8859-1 t) (message-is-news iso-8859-1 t))) (setq rfc2047-header-encoding-alist '(("Newsgroups" . nil) ("Message-ID" . nil) ("Subject" . nil) (t . mime))) (setq mm-body-charset-encoding-alist '((koi8-r . 8bit))) Now I'm using 5.8.8 version (20001218 snapshot) and experiencing real problems to send messages with non-ascii characters. As far as I understand new gnus does not use gnus-group-posting-charset-alist and rfc2047-header-encoding-alist variables in non-mule environment. Only variable that controls posting charset is message-default-charset. Ok. I set message-default-charset to nil and now gnus is asking me for charset every time I'm sending non-ascii messages. It's annoying but I can live with it. The real problem is non-ascii headers. When I send message with non-ascii subject gnus ask me: "Some texts are not encoded. Encode anyway?" and when I answer "no" I get: error "Cannot send unencoded text." So the only way is to answer "yes" and then gnus sends subject as iso-8859-1 encoded and this is really bad. Please help me to solve this problem, I really don't want to go back to 5.8.4.