From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/6577 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: various nnml questions, many about cross-posted mail messages Date: 09 Jun 1996 06:06:26 +0200 Message-ID: References: <199606072316.TAA19343@csb.bu.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: coloc-standby.netfonds.no X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1035147013 4084 80.91.224.250 (20 Oct 2002 20:50:13 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 20 Oct 2002 20:50:13 +0000 (UTC) Return-Path: ding-request@ifi.uio.no Original-Received: from ifi.uio.no (ifi.uio.no [129.240.64.2]) by deanna.miranova.com (8.7.5/8.6.9) with SMTP id WAA06645 for ; Sat, 8 Jun 1996 22:46:26 -0700 Original-Received: from eistla.ifi.uio.no (4867@eistla.ifi.uio.no [129.240.94.29]) by ifi.uio.no with ESMTP (8.6.11/ifi2.4) id for ; Sun, 9 Jun 1996 06:19:17 +0200 Original-Received: (from larsi@localhost) by eistla.ifi.uio.no ; Sun, 9 Jun 1996 06:19:15 +0200 Original-To: ding@ifi.uio.no In-Reply-To: jbw@cs.bu.edu's message of Fri, 7 Jun 1996 19:16:30 -0400 Original-Lines: 129 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.2.13/Emacs 19.29 Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:6577 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:6577 jbw@cs.bu.edu (Joe Wells) writes: > 1. An article is cross-posted to two mail groups: > > Xref: csb.bu.edu mail.emacs.bbdb:1 mail.to-jbw:3 > > I am in the Summary buffer for mail.emacs.bbdb on the line for this > article. I type "B DEL". The file ~/Mail/mail/emacs/bbdb/1 is > unlinked. The file ~/Mail/mail/to-jbw/3 is untouched. In particular, > it still has the old "Xref:" header, which is incorrect because the > article is no longer in mail.emacs.bbdb. > > Questions: > > A: Is this fixed? No, but it isn't a bug. :-) > B: Is there a command that will remove the article from all of the > mail groups to which it is cross-posted? Hm. Nope, but it's trivial to add. I've now added it to the Red Gnus todo list. > 2. In the Summary buffer, the "B m" command asks for a target group. I > type in a name. It complains that the group doesn't exist. (The group > does indeed not exist yet. I don't care. I want the message in that > group.) > > Question: > > * Is there a command that will just create the group instead of > failing? No, the group has to exist before moving. I could remove the restriction; I just thought that requiring a match would lead to fewer problems with typos and such. Whadda y'all say? Should Gnus just create the group when the user moves/copies an article to the group? > 3. An article is cross-posted to two mail groups: > > Xref: csb.bu.edu mail.emacs.bbdb:2 mail.list.info-bbdb:1 > > I am in the Summary buffer for mail.emacs.bbdb on the line for this > article. I type "B m" and specify the group "mail.misc". The file > ~/Mail/mail/emacs/bbdb/2 is unlinked. The file ~/Mail/list/info-bbdb/1 > is untouched. In particular, it still has the old "Xref:" header, > which is incorrect because the other copy for the article is no longer > in mail.emacs.bbdb, but is instead in mail.misc. Well, it's not incorrect -- it just points to a message that no longer exists. > The new file in > mail.misc has the following wrong "Xref:" header: > > Xref: csb.bu.edu mail.misc:48 > > This is wrong because the message is cross-posted to > "mail.list.info-bbdb". > > Questions: > > A: Is this fixed? > B: Is there a command that will take an article which is cross-posted > to groups A and B and make it cross-posted to A, B, and C? The "B > c" command does not seem to preserve cross-posting links. Should it? I don't know, really. Again, changing the behavior is easy enough, but I'm not sure it's the right thing to do... > 4. Question: How do people keep track of whether they have edited a > message or forwarded it? They have rilly good memories? > 5. An article is cross-posted to multiple mail groups: > > Xref: csb.bu.edu mail.emacs.bbdb:4 mail.emacs.mail-extr:1 mail.to-jbw:22 > > I am in the Summary buffer for mail.emacs.bbdb on the line for this > article. I type "!" to tick the article. I exit this summary and > enter the Summary buffer for mail.emacs.mail-extr. There is no tick > mark for this article in the group mail.emacs.mail-extr. > > Question: > > * Is there a variable setting so that any mark change (adding or > removing a mark) I apply to a message in one group is immediately > applied to the same message in any other groups to which it is > cross-posted? Right now only the "R" marks seem to be propagated. This is a feature. Propagating marks between groups seems rather absurd to me. I can't see what good that would do. The only thing the Xref utility is there for is to avoid having to read any article more than once, and that's all. > 6. I am importing some mailboxes from VM. Question: How do I arrange that > articles to which I have replied in VM get the "A" mark? This isn't supported, but may be supported in Red Gnus. > 7. Question: What is the difference between the "%g" and "%G" format > specifications for the Group buffer? %g is the name the group has in Gnus, %G is the name as the backend knows it. (Ie. "nnml:mail.ding" v. "mail.ding".) > 8. Question: How do I assign group descriptions to mail groups? Edit the "newsgroups" file for the backend. > 9. Question: Is there a command to burst a digest or encapsulated message, > handling the contained messages as though they had arrived via the mail > spool? `C-d' `M P b' `B r' `q'. :-) Assign that to a macro and you're all set. > 10. Question: Is there a command to resend a message using the > "Resent-To:", "Resent-From:", "Resent-Date:", and "Resent-Message-ID:" > headers? `S D r'. -- "Yes. The journey through the human heart would have to wait until some other time."