From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/7807 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Randal L. Schwartz" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: how do I fcc: a nnml folder? and what is gcc? (gnus 5.3) Date: Wed, 4 Sep 1996 07:33:42 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <199609041433.HAA17952@kelly.teleport.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: coloc-standby.netfonds.no X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1035148069 8591 80.91.224.250 (20 Oct 2002 21:07:49 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 20 Oct 2002 21:07:49 +0000 (UTC) Return-Path: ding-request@ifi.uio.no Original-Received: from ifi.uio.no (ifi.uio.no [129.240.64.2]) by deanna.miranova.com (8.7.5/8.6.9) with SMTP id LAA21061 for ; Wed, 4 Sep 1996 11:25:41 -0700 Original-Received: from desiree.teleport.com (desiree.teleport.com [192.108.254.21]) by ifi.uio.no with ESMTP (8.6.11/ifi2.4) id for ; Wed, 4 Sep 1996 16:33:58 +0200 Original-Received: from kelly.teleport.com (merlyn@kelly.teleport.com [192.108.254.10]) by desiree.teleport.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id HAA07190 for ; Wed, 4 Sep 1996 07:33:43 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: (from merlyn@localhost) by kelly.teleport.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) id HAA17952; Wed, 4 Sep 1996 07:33:42 -0700 (PDT) Original-To: ding@ifi.uio.no Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:7807 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:7807 OK, I've just taken the plunge, in an effort to get away from using MH to read my mail, in starting to have my mailreading in GNUS using nnml folders. I've already figured out (in about 6 hours... grrrr...) about procmail incoming's and B-c and a few other cool things. I'm still puzzling over exactly how to remove old mail (the expiry thing is a bit fuzzy so far), but I can at least B-del it for now. But now I'm stuck. What's the right Fcc setup to trigger saving into nnml "groups" called "nnml:outbox" or "nnml:todo" or whatever? The docs say that message-fcc-handler-function is rmail-output by default, but I can't figure out what nnml function corresponds to rmail-output. And, the docs mention "gcc" once, and the source mentions it twice, but that's the end of the road. Is that the remnants of an experiment gone bad, or is that what I'm looking for? [please cc: me on the response... I read this list via the FTP archive] -- Name: Randal L. Schwartz / Stonehenge Consulting Services (503)777-0095 Keywords: Perl training, UNIX[tm] consulting, video production, skiing, flying Email: Snail: (Call) PGP-Key: (finger merlyn@ora.com) Web: My Home Page! Quote: "I'm telling you, if I could have five lines in my .sig, I would!" -- me From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/7810 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: dsg@linus.mitre.org (David S. Goldberg) Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: how do I fcc: a nnml folder? and what is gcc? (gnus 5.3) Date: 04 Sep 1996 15:20:08 -0400 Sender: dsg@linus.mitre.org Message-ID: References: <199609041433.HAA17952@kelly.teleport.com> Reply-To: dsg@mitre.org (David S. Goldberg) NNTP-Posting-Host: coloc-standby.netfonds.no Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.75) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1035148071 8595 80.91.224.250 (20 Oct 2002 21:07:51 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 20 Oct 2002 21:07:51 +0000 (UTC) Cc: "Randal L. Schwartz" Return-Path: ding-request@ifi.uio.no Original-Received: from ifi.uio.no (ifi.uio.no [129.240.64.2]) by deanna.miranova.com (8.7.5/8.6.9) with SMTP id MAA22352 for ; Wed, 4 Sep 1996 12:35:57 -0700 Original-Received: from linus.mitre.org (linus.mitre.org [129.83.10.1]) by ifi.uio.no with ESMTP (8.6.11/ifi2.4) id for ; Wed, 4 Sep 1996 21:21:36 +0200 Original-Received: from blackbird.mitre.org (blackbird.mitre.org [129.83.10.172]) by linus.mitre.org (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id PAA11303; Wed, 4 Sep 1996 15:20:14 -0400 Original-Received: (from dsg@localhost) by blackbird.mitre.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id PAA05363; Wed, 4 Sep 1996 15:20:10 -0400 (EDT) Original-To: ding@ifi.uio.no X-Face: GUaHTH@nS>[7,ME@-gYZ4#Wl{z"99k@[[Y8AcP0x1paqu.,z9,XSV1WI>{q3f6^e5(zrit<4fV&VHhmE`uidRqtmG27;si9&r;#KSF~E#$%W8w(xdp)H4tW=\2XOk~3=@oGqqpj;m4xfOw;y26396&,34@9#~4;@*S;E0cq"LM9N(us4P%F(Nxis'Vvfm9?KufH;:Q$dMa-QWGLR&Kd0`LJZE8xb*>^yN>b]_NcU:E=Zn\1=#/(OS2 In-Reply-To: "Randal L. Schwartz"'s message of Wed, 4 Sep 1996 07:33:42 -0700 (PDT) Original-Lines: 57 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.2.39/Emacs 19.31 Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:7810 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:7810 > But now I'm stuck. What's the right Fcc setup to trigger saving > into nnml "groups" called "nnml:outbox" or "nnml:todo" or whatever? > The docs say that message-fcc-handler-function is rmail-output by > default, but I can't figure out what nnml function corresponds to > rmail-output. There doesn't seem to be a good default. With rmail-output you can do something like Fcc: |/usr/local/lib/mh/rcvstore +folder but that's way too much typing for me. So I wrote a fcc handler function that did the rcvstore for me. However, I wasn't real satisfied with that. Since I've decided to move away from MH as my primary means of reading mail in favor of Gnus, I didn't want to have to deal with the Fcc's ending up in my unseen sequence (which I still use for some colaborative stuff outside of Gnus). I know I can muck with the environment and specify a stripped down mh profile but I didn't want that. I also didn't like the fact that using rcvstore meant having to do nnml-generate-nov-databases. So I came up with the following message-fcc-handler-function, which does all the right nnml stuff. I've only been using it a couple days now which is why I haven't said anything about it before - I'm still not sure it's correct although it hasn't burned me yet. (defun dsg-message-do-mh-fcc (fldr) "Store a message into an MH folder given by Fcc header in message-mode." (let* ((fldr (substring fldr (1+ (length (getenv "HOME"))))) (group (if (= (string-to-char fldr) ?+) (substring fldr 1) fldr))) (if (string-match "/$" group) (setq group (replace-match "" nil nil group))) (while (string-match "/" group) (setq group (replace-match "." nil nil group))) (nnml-request-accept-article group nil t))) The replacement of / with . is necessary only if you're like me and you're used to doing MH style fcc's with recursive folders. This lets me use the mh-to-fcc function from mh-e to get folder completion (I rebind \C-c\C-f\C-w to mh-to-fcc). > And, the docs mention "gcc" once, and the source mentions it twice, > but that's the end of the road. Is that the remnants of an > experiment gone bad, or is that what I'm looking for? I am pretty sure that this is basically what gcc is supposed to do, but I'm used to fcc and prefer to be able to take advantage of functions I wrote for mh-e to get default fcc folders etc rather than have to learn gcc and figure out how to do the same thing with that header. -- Dave Goldberg Post: The Mitre Corporation\MS B305\202 Burlington Rd.\Bedford, MA 01730 Phone: 617-271-3887 Email: dsg@mitre.org From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/7811 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Steven L Baur Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: how do I fcc: a nnml folder? and what is gcc? (gnus 5.3) Date: 04 Sep 1996 16:27:57 -0700 Sender: steve@miranova.com Message-ID: References: <199609041433.HAA17952@kelly.teleport.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: coloc-standby.netfonds.no Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.81) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1035148072 8603 80.91.224.250 (20 Oct 2002 21:07:52 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 20 Oct 2002 21:07:52 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Randal L Schwartz Return-Path: ding-request@ifi.uio.no Original-Received: from ifi.uio.no (ifi.uio.no [129.240.64.2]) by deanna.miranova.com (8.7.5/8.6.9) with SMTP id QAA26165 for ; Wed, 4 Sep 1996 16:40:40 -0700 Original-Received: from deanna.miranova.com (steve@deanna.miranova.com [206.190.83.1]) by ifi.uio.no with ESMTP (8.6.11/ifi2.4) id for ; Thu, 5 Sep 1996 01:30:40 +0200 Original-Received: (from steve@localhost) by deanna.miranova.com (8.7.5/8.6.9) id QAA26034; Wed, 4 Sep 1996 16:27:58 -0700 Original-To: ding@ifi.uio.no X-Url: http://www.miranova.com/%7Esteve/ Mail-Copies-To: never X-Face: #!T9!#9s-3o8)*uHlX{Ug[xW7E7Wr!*L46-OxqMu\xz23v|R9q}lH?cRS{rCNe^'[`^sr5" f8*@r4ipO6Jl!:Ccqp:9I OSS'2{-)-4wBnVeg0S\O4Al@)uC[pD|+ In-Reply-To: "Randal L. Schwartz"'s message of Wed, 4 Sep 1996 07:33:42 -0700 (PDT) Original-Lines: 49 X-Mailer: Red Gnus v0.26/XEmacs 19.14 Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:7811 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:7811 >>>>> "Randal" == Randal L Schwartz writes: Randal> But now I'm stuck. What's the right Fcc setup to trigger Randal> saving into nnml "groups" called "nnml:outbox" or "nnml:todo" Randal> or whatever? The docs say that message-fcc-handler-function Randal> is rmail-output by default, but I can't figure out what nnml Randal> function corresponds to rmail-output. You mentioned using procmail, the magic secret with Gnus procmail support is that you do not have to use procmail with it ... What I do is let Gnus process Fcc's as if they were incoming messages. Put a line like: Fcc: ~/spool/sent.spool or whatever folder you wish, in your headers. The copy gets saved in the incoming procmail spool directory. The next time you M-2 g or g to incorporate incoming mail, it will get put into the appropriate nnml group. The problem with doing a direct rcvstore is that it only updates the mh unseen file, and you need to keep the .overview updated with nnml, and I find it easiest to let Gnus do it. Note that it is not appropriate to Fcc into spool files used by procmail. This technique of putting things into the procmail spool directory can be quite useful. I've got a little perl program that snarfs news from the quickly expiring nntp server to put into nnml groups (since they can be more convenient to read) which uses it. Randal> And, the docs mention "gcc" once, and the source mentions it twice, Randal> but that's the end of the road. Is that the remnants of an experiment Randal> gone bad, or is that what I'm looking for? Yup. It's useful for keeping temporary copies of postings around in case one gets lost or bounced, but not for much else, IMO. Randal> [please cc: me on the response... I read this list via the FTP Randal> archive] For this list, it ought to be sufficient to add Mail-Copies-To: merlyn@stonehenge.com to your headers. -- steve@miranova.com baur Unsolicited commercial e-mail will be billed at $250/message. What are the last two letters of "doesn't" and "can't"? Coincidence? I think not. From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/7813 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Raja R Harinath Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: how do I fcc: a nnml folder? and what is gcc? (gnus 5.3) Date: 04 Sep 1996 20:01:29 -0500 Sender: harinath@cs.umn.edu Message-ID: References: <199609041433.HAA17952@kelly.teleport.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: coloc-standby.netfonds.no Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.68) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1035148074 8607 80.91.224.250 (20 Oct 2002 21:07:54 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 20 Oct 2002 21:07:54 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Steven L Baur , Randal L Schwartz Return-Path: ding-request@ifi.uio.no Original-Received: from ifi.uio.no (ifi.uio.no [129.240.64.2]) by deanna.miranova.com (8.7.5/8.6.9) with SMTP id SAA27458 for ; Wed, 4 Sep 1996 18:11:27 -0700 Original-Received: from mail.cs.umn.edu (mail.cs.umn.edu [128.101.149.1]) by ifi.uio.no with ESMTP (8.6.11/ifi2.4) id for ; Thu, 5 Sep 1996 03:02:07 +0200 Original-Received: from ashoka.cs.umn.edu (harinath@ashoka.cs.umn.edu [128.101.230.13]) by mail.cs.umn.edu (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id UAA12365; Wed, 4 Sep 1996 20:01:33 -0500 (CDT) Original-Received: (harinath@localhost) by ashoka.cs.umn.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id UAA14771; Wed, 4 Sep 1996 20:01:31 -0500 Original-To: ding@ifi.uio.no In-Reply-To: Steven L Baur's message of 04 Sep 1996 16:27:57 -0700 Original-Lines: 54 X-Mailer: Red Gnus v0.26/Emacs 19.34 Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:7813 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:7813 Steven L Baur writes: > >>>>> "Randal" == Randal L Schwartz writes: > > Randal> But now I'm stuck. What's the right Fcc setup to trigger > Randal> saving into nnml "groups" called "nnml:outbox" or "nnml:todo" > Randal> or whatever? The docs say that message-fcc-handler-function > Randal> is rmail-output by default, but I can't figure out what nnml > Randal> function corresponds to rmail-output. > > You mentioned using procmail, the magic secret with Gnus procmail > support is that you do not have to use procmail with it ... > > What I do is let Gnus process Fcc's as if they were incoming > messages. Put a line like: > Fcc: ~/spool/sent.spool > > or whatever folder you wish, in your headers. The copy gets saved in > the incoming procmail spool directory. The next time you M-2 g or g > to incorporate incoming mail, it will get put into the appropriate > nnml group. The problem with doing a direct rcvstore is that it only > updates the mh unseen file, and you need to keep the .overview updated > with nnml, and I find it easiest to let Gnus do it. It's useful, but not safe. Mail spool files _should not_ be accessed arbitrarily, since you have the danger of corrupting them, and of losing mail. Spool files in the procmail spool directory should recieve the same careful handling given to, say, `/usr/spool/mail/$LOGNAME'. They should be accessed only when you can lock them in such a way that other "competing" programs (i.e. procmail) cannot/do not try to access the spool file simultaneously. Spool files should be accessed only in mutex. (Note that this is why Gnus has special procmail support.) Procmail and movemail use advisory locks on spool files, for mutual exclusion. These locks are useful only when all programs involved recognize them. You can craft a lock aware `message-fcc-handler-function', that uses the lockfile(1) program that comes with procmail (Also, such a handler function won't cause harm on non spool folders either.) Only then is it safe to Fcc: to a mail spool. Thanks for the idea, however. I occasionally have wanted to use Gcc: support without loading the whole of `gnus'. This idea of Fcc:ing to the procmail spool is an alternative. - Hari -- Raja R Harinath ------------------------------ harinath@cs.umn.edu "When all else fails, read the instructions." -- Cahn's Axiom "Our policy is, when in doubt, do the right thing." -- Roy L Ash From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/7814 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Sudish Joseph Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: how do I fcc: a nnml folder? and what is gcc? (gnus 5.3) Date: 04 Sep 1996 23:43:53 -0400 Sender: sj@atreides.erehwon.org Message-ID: References: <199609041433.HAA17952@kelly.teleport.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: coloc-standby.netfonds.no Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.69) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1035148075 8608 80.91.224.250 (20 Oct 2002 21:07:55 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 20 Oct 2002 21:07:55 +0000 (UTC) Cc: "Randal L. Schwartz" Return-Path: ding-request@ifi.uio.no Original-Received: from ifi.uio.no (ifi.uio.no [129.240.64.2]) by deanna.miranova.com (8.7.5/8.6.9) with SMTP id VAA29748 for ; Wed, 4 Sep 1996 21:01:21 -0700 Original-Received: from sudish.users.MindSpring.COM (qmailr@user-168-121-167-78.dialup.mindspring.com [168.121.167.78]) by ifi.uio.no with SMTP (8.6.11/ifi2.4) id for ; Thu, 5 Sep 1996 05:43:41 +0200 Original-Received: (qmail-queue invoked by uid 501); 5 Sep 1996 03:43:53 -0000 Original-To: The Ding list In-Reply-To: Raja R Harinath's message of 04 Sep 1996 20:01:29 -0500 Original-Lines: 39 X-Mailer: Red Gnus v0.23/XEmacs 19.14 Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:7814 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:7814 Raja R Harinath writes: > Steven L Baur writes: >> What I do is let Gnus process Fcc's as if they were incoming >> messages. Put a line like: >> Fcc: ~/spool/sent.spool > It's useful, but not safe. (push "~/spool/sent.not-nnml-procmail-suffix" nnmail-spool-file) in conjunction with a fixed Fcc to the same file will do the job safely, with or w/o procmail. This is assuming that headers in outgoing mail contain sufficient info to let you split them correctly...this is usually true. [ good stuff on procmail locking deleted ] > You can craft a lock aware `message-fcc-handler-function', that uses the > lockfile(1) program that comes with procmail (Also, such a handler > function won't cause harm on non spool folders either.) Only then is it > safe to Fcc: to a mail spool. The problem with this is the handler runs synchronously...you do not want to wait for the procmail process running on the way overloaded mail hub to deliver to the heavily banged upon spool partition and relinquish the lock under your (possibly NFS-mounted on the mailhub, eww) $HOME for every message you send. An asynch variation is to just hand a copy of the message to a procmail sub-process from the fcc handler. However, since this assumes that the message contains sufficient info in the headers to be split appropriately, it is entirely equivalent to using "Bcc: me" and loses for the same reasons; using nnmail-spool-file with a fixed Fcc is better for the same assumptions. -Sudish "managed not to rant on true asynch delivery, yay" Joseph PS: How about renaming it to nnmail-spool-files, like vm-spool-files? Backward compatibility is easy enough. From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/7816 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: how do I fcc: a nnml folder? and what is gcc? (gnus 5.3) Date: 05 Sep 1996 07:23:33 +0200 Message-ID: References: <199609041433.HAA17952@kelly.teleport.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: coloc-standby.netfonds.no X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1035148076 8614 80.91.224.250 (20 Oct 2002 21:07:56 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 20 Oct 2002 21:07:56 +0000 (UTC) Cc: "Randal L. Schwartz" Return-Path: ding-request@ifi.uio.no Original-Received: from ifi.uio.no (ifi.uio.no [129.240.64.2]) by deanna.miranova.com (8.7.5/8.6.9) with SMTP id KAA00168 for ; Thu, 5 Sep 1996 10:08:11 -0700 Original-Received: from gymir.ifi.uio.no (gymir.ifi.uio.no [129.240.80.2]) by ifi.uio.no with ESMTP (8.6.11/ifi2.4) id ; Thu, 5 Sep 1996 18:26:14 +0200 Original-Received: (from larsi@localhost) by gymir.ifi.uio.no ; Thu, 5 Sep 1996 18:26:13 +0200 Original-To: ding@ifi.uio.no In-Reply-To: "Randal L. Schwartz"'s message of Wed, 4 Sep 1996 07:33:42 -0700 (PDT) Original-Lines: 30 X-Mailer: Red Gnus v0.27/Emacs 19.29 X-Face: &w!^oO~dS|}-P0~ge{$c!h\ writes: > And, the docs mention "gcc" once, and the source mentions it twice, > but that's the end of the road. Is that the remnants of an experiment > gone bad, or is that what I'm looking for? It's probably what you're looking for, I think. If you say something like: (setq gnus-message-archive-group '((if (message-news-p) "nnml:misc-news" "nnml:misc-mail"))) then outgoing news will go to the nnml news group and mail to the mail group. Of course, you can make this setup arbitrarily complex -- I use: (setq gnus-message-archive-group '((if (message-news-p) "nnml:misc-news" (concat "nnml:mail." (format-time-string "%Y-%m" (current-time)))))) to get a month-by-month mail archive group. -- "Yes. The journey through the human heart would have to wait until some other time." From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/7815 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: how do I fcc: a nnml folder? and what is gcc? (gnus 5.3) Date: 05 Sep 1996 17:41:15 +0200 Message-ID: References: <199609041433.HAA17952@kelly.teleport.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: coloc-standby.netfonds.no Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1035148076 8613 80.91.224.250 (20 Oct 2002 21:07:56 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 20 Oct 2002 21:07:56 +0000 (UTC) Return-Path: ding-request@ifi.uio.no Original-Received: from ifi.uio.no (ifi.uio.no [129.240.64.2]) by deanna.miranova.com (8.7.5/8.6.9) with SMTP id KAA00030 for ; Thu, 5 Sep 1996 10:06:04 -0700 Original-Received: from gymir.ifi.uio.no (gymir.ifi.uio.no [129.240.80.2]) by ifi.uio.no with ESMTP (8.6.11/ifi2.4) id for ; Thu, 5 Sep 1996 17:41:18 +0200 Original-Received: (from larsi@localhost) by gymir.ifi.uio.no ; Thu, 5 Sep 1996 17:41:18 +0200 Original-To: ding@ifi.uio.no In-Reply-To: Sudish Joseph's message of 04 Sep 1996 23:43:53 -0400 Original-Lines: 14 X-Mailer: Red Gnus v0.26/Emacs 19.34 X-Face: &w!^oO~dS|}-P0~ge{$c!h\ writes: > PS: How about renaming it to nnmail-spool-files, like vm-spool-files? > Backward compatibility is easy enough. It's not worth it. Actually, this is a kinda general problem -- quite a lot of the Gnus variables started out as single-value variables, and have then mutated into lists as it became clear that a single value was too restrictive. Perhaps I should just put an "s" at the end of all new variables I create, just to be on the safe side. :-) -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) larsi@ifi.uio.no * Lars Ingebrigtsen